If Alvarez KOd Kirkland in RD1 After Bell, Disqualified?

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #21
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    No f#cking clue what you are trying to say here as usual, but its a troll thread cuz OF COURSE names matter in this sorta sh^t. Its trolly to even ask the question you silly mfer. Thats why its a troll thread.

    Floyd shoulda got DQ'd for Roger entering the ring that one time vs Zab. And we've all seen loads of questionable stuff with name guys vs nobodies & there are all kinds of fights where a guys name or status resulted in him not getting the punishment someone with a lesser or no name or lesser or no status woulda gotten. If Andre woulda KO'd Jose exactly like things went down last night I'd bet it'd have been a NC or just a KO win cuz Andre gets the more valued name.
    I asked IF Alvarez had knocked out Kirkland in that sequence where Kirkland could not continue at the ending of Rd1, would Alvarez had the KO or would he have been DQ? I have a feeling the Dirrell case will have a review

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      #22
      Originally posted by Connor MacLeod
      What the fuck are you talking about troll cop?
      Didn't you say refs are corrupt? So why would you need to question your own consistency? Wouldn't K2 want some of the action? I mean Wade took a dive too, don't just exclude boxers, Chavez Jr..?

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      • Connor MacLeod
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        #23
        Originally posted by harwri008
        I'm totally confused.
        Why am I not surprised.
        Originally posted by harwri008
        The refs job is not only for the protection of the fighter, they're also there to enforce rules.
        Simply not true. A ref will only "enforce the rules" if and when it is advantageous to the promoter.
        Originally posted by harwri008
        Yes they're bad refs but that's a whole other discussion.
        Do you still believe in santa, god etc?
        Originally posted by harwri008
        You know sports could also be a business right? Hence the billions of dollars involved in most major sports league.
        I am well aware of this but as I said Boxing is not a sport it is a business.
        Originally posted by harwri008
        When did boxing stop being a sport?
        If boxing is an actual sport then so is WCW wrestling.
        Originally posted by harwri008

        Either way, get well soon. It's best for everyone.
        Thanks.

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #24
          Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
          I asked IF Alvarez had knocked out Kirkland in that sequence where Kirkland could not continue at the ending of Rd1, would Alvarez had the KO or would he have been DQ? I have a feeling the Dirrell case will have a review
          I know what you said, but its a dumb f#cking trolly question. We all know how boxing works & names matter more than they should. There lil justice in boxing.

          If the exact same thing happened last night, but Jose was the one on his back you could bet Dirrell woulda gotten a KO win or at worst it'd be declared a NC. So Kirkland would be Jose & Canelo woulda been Andre & Kirkland on the ground woulda been a KO win or NC for Canelo & Canelo on the ground woulda been exactly what Jose got last night.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            I know what you said, but its a dumb f#cking trolly question. We all know how boxing works & names matter more than they should. There lil justice in boxing.

            If the exact same thing happened last night, but Jose was the one on his back you could bet Dirrell woulda gotten a KO win or at worst it'd be declared a NC. So Kirkland would be Jose & Canelo woulda been Andre & Kirkland on the ground woulda been a KO win or NC for Canelo & Canelo on the ground woulda been exactly what Jose got last night.
            But in both videos exampled, the referee intervened at the closing bell. In a board review, we should criticize the ref correct? It looks super shady for Uzcategui to have a DQ on his resume for a combination so easily done in boxing. NC is best and neutral.

            Also, we wouldn't know what Jon Schorle would've called because it didn't happen is my point. Please acknowledge that Showtime's cast at the time we're yelling "murder" after the bell, if anything they made it seem biased to the a Network's house fighter... which in theory makes it worse. You can hear the cast change its tone as the minutes go by. Perhaps being directed over the headphones to chill...

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            • Connor MacLeod
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              #26
              Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
              Didn't you say refs are corrupt? So why would you need to question your own consistency? Wouldn't K2 want some of the action? I mean Wade took a dive too, don't just exclude boxers, Chavez Jr..?
              Wade, k2, Chavez?
              What is the meaning of this?
              At first I thought you misquoted me, now I think you're
              some sort of paranoid schizo autistic clown.

              Chavez jr is a steroid cheater and has robbed a half dozen
              fighters. I'm not a fan.

              I'll assume the Wade and k2 comments are in reference to that "three G" boxer. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with price of rice in china.
              I'm not a fan of Grenadine Granola Golokovin.


              Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
              So why would you need to question your own consistency?
              That never happend you chickenshit.

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              • DocGreenThumb.
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                #27
                This isn't a GGG thread troll cop.

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                  #28
                  The actual effect of a foul plays a huge role in boxing foul. If a pillow puncher cracks a guy after the bell and a big puncher does the exact same punch the result will be very different.

                  If a guy can't continue from a foul then that is a DQ, but no one really cares much about DQ loses like that. SO yea Canelo would likely get DQ'd is Kirkland is ruled that he can't continue. Most guys can't fake getting hurt and go down in a split second, once they are hurt and on the ground maybe but they have to be actually hurt first for that to actually come into play then the ref or the doctor have to make a tough call.

                  Say Kirkland has to continue, gets his five minutes the fight restarts. It goes on but Kirkland gets tagged a bunch and then end up seriously hurt. The legal case for the whole commission to get sued is open and shut because a clear foul where a guy was hurt and he was essentially forced to continue.

                  Fouls that cause serious damage put people in a bad position where there is no good answer. Just consider the fight for what happened and view it as such.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DocGreenThumb.
                    This isn't a GGG thread troll cop.
                    Of course not. Loeffler is not a fighter, and all refs are guilty!

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                    • Eff Pandas
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                      But in both videos exampled, the referee intervened at the closing bell. In a board review, we should criticize the ref correct? It looks super shady for Uzcategui to have a DQ on his resume for a combination so easily done in boxing. NC is best and neutral.
                      I & many others were criticizing the ref last night. Its always the refs fault when the call something differently then it should be because of a name. This isn't a Scooby Doo mystery.

                      Also, we wouldn't know what Jon Schorle would've called because it didn't happen is my point. Please acknowledge that Showtime's cast at the time we're yelling "murder" after the bell, if anything they made it seem biased to the a Network's house fighter... which in theory makes it worse. You can hear the cast change its tone as the minutes go by. Perhaps being directed over the headphones to chill...
                      Again no sh^t the announcers ALMOST ALWAYS side for the house fighter. Grass is grown, tall trees are old as f#ck & even if you love eating ***** you gotta agree its an acquired test. Nothing you are saying isn't anything we don't know & agree on. Everything you're bringing up is a no sh^t conversation.

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