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  • #51
    I'm 5 rounds in and all I see is Murata walking forward but N'dam is the one outworking him. Nothing clean or effective but still throwing more.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Connor MacLeod View Post
      When you talk about quality I agree N'dam was hitting gloves and arms a hell of a lot but he would also get jabs between Muratas guard and he was landing that scuffing right hand round the side quite often. Now as I said these punches were not very good quality, but despite the power advantage in Muratas shots he wasn't throwing or landing anywhere near as many punches as N'dam .

      Do you think Murata would have thrown so few punches in an "away" title fight? I believe he behaved like its in the bag because hes a gold medalist fighting in his hometown.

      Did you notice the crowd/corner faces/reactions in the later rounds?? Those people looked like they thought the local hero was losing and needing a ko.
      N'Dam was landing some good punches but he wasn't winning the rounds, N'Dam was not outlanding Murata by much at all, throwing a lot more but not landing a lot more and when Murata was landing it was very clean powerful punches that had a clear effect on N'Dam. I don't care about whether Murata felt entitled or not, that has no bearing upon who won the fight.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by yngwie View Post
        And it's that Murata's fault?.
        Show me where I blamed either fighter? I said I'm happy karma came back to bite the WBA in the ass for joke title fight

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        • #54
          Originally posted by trippleupper View Post
          I think you have some good points. I had Murata winning 114-113. Murata didn't throw enough punches and was too careful with his high-guard defense. If he had gone for it with the heart of a scrappy challenger (not easy to do once you've got a million dollar signing bonus) -- especially once he had N'Dam hurt -- would he have been able to take him out? We'll never know.

          That said, I still don't think N'Dam did enough to win.
          Well to be fair N'dams constant punching is what made Murata shell up at times. And The difference in pro experience between the two is staggering.

          I've noticed people always seem to forget how fast N'dam can be and how much heart the guy has. He may go down in literally every other fight but he seems quite difficult to put away.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Connor MacLeod View Post
            Quality is all well and good but the japanese kid was so buisy covering up for such extended periods that it limited
            his offense.

            And lets give N'dam some credit. he made Murata shell up
            for a half minute at a time by treating him like a walking heavybag.
            Quality is all well a good? Quality is the most important thing!

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Humean View Post
              I don't care about whether Murata felt entitled or not, that has no bearing upon who won the fight.
              I think you misunderstand what I am trying to say.
              What I mean to say Is Murata was expecting home cooking but didn't get it.

              Originally posted by Humean View Post
              N'Dam was not outlanding Murata by much at all.
              I Disagree. If this fight was as give and take as you suggest
              It would have ended with N'dam asleep.
              Murata also did his fair share of punching gloves and arms.

              Originally posted by Humean View Post
              Murata was landing it was very clean powerful punches that had a clear effect on N'Dam.
              Yes and after he would land several powerfull punches he would go to sleep. N'dam never stopped punching.

              Originally posted by Humean View Post
              N'Dam was landing some good punches but he wasn't winning the rounds

              Murata was landing it was very clean powerful punches that had a clear effect on N'Dam.
              lol It sounds as though N'dam could only win by ko in your eyes.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Humean View Post
                Quality is all well a good? Quality is the most important thing!
                Yeah you can't land 2-5 "quality" punches a round and expect to cancel out quadruple the work without multiple knockdowns.

                Are you denying Murata stopped punching for at least 20 seconds at a time??
                Does standing still covering up and taking punches like a heavy bag count as quality? lol

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                • #58
                  Murata vs. N'Dam

                  Originally posted by Connor MacLeod View Post
                  Well to be fair N'dams constant punching is what made Murata shell up at times. And The difference in pro experience between the two is staggering.

                  I've noticed people always seem to forget how fast N'dam can be and how much heart the guy has. He may go down in literally every other fight but he seems quite difficult to put away.

                  No doubt about that -- N'Dam's never lost by KO, has he?

                  N'Dam moved brilliantly (though he's no Willie Pep), showed resilience and determination, and deployed fast combinations effectively. However, the most decisive, positive, active as opposed to passive, impression-making elements of the fight -- the knockdown, the constant pressure, the cleaner, harder blows -- were all in Murata's favor.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Golden Boi 360 View Post
                    But why single out the hispanic judge when one Canadian also gave it to N'dam?
                    For a while there I forgot the other judge was Canadian and read Columbian.

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                    • #60
                      How the **** is N'dam the regular WBA middleweight champion now??
                      I thought Jacobs was the regular WBA champion before g string beat him so that would make g string the only WBA middleweight champion..
                      So how the **** is N'dam the regular WBA champion now?? Can someone please explain that to me...
                      The WBA is a ****ing joke! Thought they were gonna eliminate all them ****ing belts and have one champion per division.... Yeah right! More money for them having more piece of shet belts!
                      **** THE WBA! PUNKS ASS LAMES!

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