Comments Thread For: D'Mitrius Ballard vs. Adrian Luna Set For Golden Boy on ESPN

[HAMMER77777]

The thing is there's too many haters on here that don't like Oscar. I don't understand why they don't like Oscar to begin with... Maybe he ****ed their wives-girlfriends-mothers- sisters, IDK... Me, I could care less what Oscar does with his personal life. I love the fact that he's putting on great fights on ESPN. I give Oscar and Al Haymon props for putting on great fights on TV.
But too many ****** idiots on here that don't like Oscar for whatever reason fail to see that the fights Oscar has put on ESPN are pretty good fights and evenly matched. That's why there's been a few upsets already since Oscar started the ESPN deal.
But too many ****ing haters that have never accomplished anything in life hate to see another man succeed. They the type of fools that wanna keep another man down with them. That makes punks like Jason Shaw and kigali and rravez and scipio 2009 some sorry piece of shets! **** all the haters that hate on Oscar, Canelo, and Golden Boy promotions! And that goes for cowards that hate on another man cause he succeeded and they didn't! **** all the haters out there. You punks can go choke on a ****!

Agreed. The More Fights, the better for us. Looking forward to Thurs.'s!

[killakali]

Even as the star wattage did come down, the fights still were competitive matchups for the most part (top prospects in 60/40 fights, largely).

no they were blowouts or designed to be blowouts (like guerrero peralta was intended) lnce the wattage went WAY down

[Scipio2009]

no they were blowouts or designed to be blowouts (like guerrero peralta was intended) lnce the wattage went WAY down

Point those out, please. Benevidez vs Douglin, Derevyanchenko-Soliman, Barios-Boschiero, Flores-Kielczweski, Shafikov-Herring, Selby-Montiel (Selby was clearly a better level than Montiel), Alexander-Martinez (Alexander coming off of such a long layoff, and Martinez's ruggedness made that closer than it should've been), etc were all solid matchups.

No idea what the sportsbook had for the ESPN fights, but I doubt that any of those odds were as long as the odds for this coming De La Hoya fight.

[bigdunny1]

Point those out, please. Benevidez vs Douglin, Derevyanchenko-Soliman, Barios-Boschiero, Flores-Kielczweski, Shafikov-Herring, Selby-Montiel (Selby was clearly a better level than Montiel), Alexander-Martinez (Alexander coming off of such a long layoff, and Martinez's ruggedness made that closer than it should've been), etc were all solid matchups.

No idea what the sportsbook had for the ESPN fights, but I doubt that any of those odds were as long as the odds for this coming De La Hoya fight.

Now you are just naming any fights in general you can think of most of these fights you named were NOT even close to being 50/50 fights going in. Soliman was what 42/43 years old with 14 losses and coming off 2 straight losses and a year layoff for christ sake. I can think of what 1 upset during the 2 year span of PBC on ESPN. Golden Boy in 2 months has already like 3-4 upsets and more 50/50 fights on paper going in.

[bigdunny1]

Abraham Lopez/Jesus Rojas
Yamaguchi Falcao/Morgan Fitch
Michael Perez/Marcelino Lopez
Antonio Orozco/Keandre Gibson
Mercito Gesta/Gilberto Gonzalez

All 50/50 fights going in undefeated young fighters facing off or 1 loss record vs undefeated. Prime fighter vs prime fighter not undefeated prospect facing old guy or multiple loss journeyman. Golden Boy has a small sample size but already More 50/50 fights, more competitive fights and more upsets in 2 months then PBC had on ESPN in 2 years. Not sure why people upset with Fat Boy Dan saying Golden Boy has given more competitive fights then PBC gave ESPN I think that's a pretty factual statement.

[killakali]

Point those out, please. Benevidez vs Douglin, Derevyanchenko-Soliman, Barios-Boschiero, Flores-Kielczweski, Shafikov-Herring, Selby-Montiel (Selby was clearly a better level than Montiel), Alexander-Martinez (Alexander coming off of such a long layoff, and Martinez's ruggedness made that closer than it should've been), etc were all solid matchups.

No idea what the sportsbook had for the ESPN fights, but I doubt that any of those odds were as long as the odds for this coming De La Hoya fight.

well at least you admit the alexander vs martinez fight was supposed to be a blowout. Thats what it was designed for like Guerrero Peralta. Selby vs a along faded Montiel was designed to be an easy win for Selby to even though it wasn't

But you mentioned the one legged Soliman as if any fight with him in it is competitive or designed to be competitive. Barrios was designed to have an easy win too.

[Scipio2009]

Now you are just naming any fights in general you can think of most of these fights you named were NOT even close to being 50/50 fights going in. Soliman was what 42/43 years old with 14 losses and coming off 2 straight losses and a year layoff for christ sake. I can think of what 1 upset during the 2 year span of PBC on ESPN. Golden Boy in 2 months has already like 3-4 upsets and more 50/50 fights on paper going in.

Soliman was an admitted old horse, but he was still a cagey veteran, had accounted for himself in alright form at the world level, and Derevyanchenko was stepping up for his first real test (against a tricky guy who seemed to give everyone trouble).

Soliman has an ugly record because of how he was matched early in his career; the man lost 7 of his firs 20 fights. He learned his style, went on a run, finally got to world level, and proved his ability.

Not to kill the point, but point to a 50/50 fight that's been put forward by Golden Boy Boxing on ESPN2.

[Scipio2009]

well at least you admit the alexander vs martinez fight was supposed to be a blowout. Thats what it was designed for like Guerrero Peralta. Selby vs a along faded Montiel was designed to be an easy win for Selby to even though it wasn't

But you mentioned the one legged Soliman as if any fight with him in it is competitive or designed to be competitive. Barrios was designed to have an easy win too.

Sam Soliman had been a pro fighter for 20 years; the knee injury was what it was, but you can't point to a single Soliman fight where he was blown out by anyone.

Derevyanchenko comes along, and puts an utter beating on Soliman, leaving no doubt.

Devis Boschiero isn't a world beater, but he was a 45-fight veteran, has accounted for himself well at the fringe world/Euro level, and Mario Barrios was a 20-year old top prospect, taking his first real step up.

[bigdunny1]

Soliman was an admitted old horse, but he was still a cagey veteran, had accounted for himself in alright form at the world level, and Derevyanchenko was stepping up for his first real test (against a tricky guy who seemed to give everyone trouble).

Soliman has an ugly record because of how he was matched early in his career; the man lost 7 of his firs 20 fights. He learned his style, went on a run, finally got to world level, and proved his ability.

Not to kill the point, but point to a 50/50 fight that's been put forward by Golden Boy Boxing on ESPN2.

Abraham Lopez/Jesus Rojas
Yamaguchi Falcao/Morgan Fitch
Michael Perez/Marcelino Lopez
Antonio Orozco/Keandre Gibson
Mercito Gesta/Gilberto Gonzalez

All 50/50 fights going in undefeated young fighters facing off or 1 loss record vs undefeated. Prime fighter vs prime fighter not undefeated prospect facing old guy or multiple loss journeyman. Golden Boy has a small sample size but already More 50/50 fights, more competitive fights and more upsets in 2 months then PBC had on ESPN in 2 years. Not sure why people upset with Fat Boy Dan saying Golden Boy has given more competitive fights then PBC gave ESPN I think that's a pretty factual statement.

You can also add to the list Cano vs Maldonado Jr which was just announced today.

[Motorcity Cobra]

^^^ my point exactly.

The sport is on a big buzz now, because of the number of shows being put on, but also because the matchups that have been featured in the big fight nights have been largely competitively-made matchups (whether the actual fights end up being competitive is hit/miss).

BoxRec has the entire tentative card listed, and none of the matchups even seem to kinda look competitive. lol

He also said Fonfara/Smith was a horrible mismatch and shouldn't be on national TV. While Mitch Abramson, who watched Smith in the amateurs and saw his club fight in NY, kept telling him Smith is a good fighter and live dog. So yea, that guy knows nothing about boxing.