Are promoters freezing out PBC?

[OnePunch]

It seems Haymon can't play well with "others?" It was the PBC fighter Joe Smith Jr. that went into HBO to fight a GBP mafioso... It was Haymon's advisory to give Chavez Jr. to GBP... the "black hitler" just doesn't get enough credit..

Linares vs Garcia can happen. It has to be on HBO of course

try to stay on topic. Everybody knows Haymon is just fine sending b-level guys over to HBO to get beat, as long as he gets his 15%. That isnt the topic. The topic is name ONE time that Haymon secured a credible non-PBC fighter to fight a PBC guy in a PBC main event.

Just one......

[Lester Tutor]

try to stay on topic. Everybody knows Haymon is just fine sending b-level guys over to HBO to get beat, as long as he gets his 15%. That isnt the topic. The topic is name ONE time that Haymon secured a credible non-PBC fighter to fight a PBC guy in a PBC main event.

Just one......

So who in your opinion is a "credible "non-PBC" fighter you would've liked to have seen on a branded PBC logo?

Do you think Arum would hand over Bradley to fight mainstream primetime Welterweights on CBS Sports? What about Jessie Vargas?

[Motorcity Cobra]

That is not a fact, that is speculation.

What IS fact though is that in the history of the PBC, I cannot recall a single occurance where a credible non-PBC fighter fought a PBC fighter in the main event. I cant think of a single instance. So is that GBPs fault too??? Because on its face it would seem that Haymon is the one who cant seem to "play well with others" when it comes to PBC shows......

but Im sure you know of many instances where Haymon made good offers to credible non-PBC fighters to fight his guys on his shows. Whether its Thurman, Garcia, Broner, etc etc Im sure you can list all kinds of offers that have been made.

Or not..........

It is a fact. A fact the judge cited, from the evidence, while throwing out that sham of a case. From the judges ruling:

In fact, the evidence suggests that it is Golden Boy, not Defendants, that has refused to deal with the Haymon En****** during the pendency of this lawsuit. Indeed, in May 2015, Robert Diaz (Golden Boy’s matchmaker) received a suggestion from the manager of then Golden Boy-promoted heavyweight, Luis Ortiz, to try to place Mr. Ortiz in a bout that is featured within a PBC show. Mr. Diaz responded, “Are you serious? You do know we have sued Haymon right?”.

But you're blaming Haymon?

So you go from telling me to stop speculating and to present facts. Then I present facts and you deny them. And you continue to ask me to speculate. Which one is it? Do you want me to speculate or not?

[HAMMER77777]

Man alive, this stuff is way too confusing. All this alphabet soup and all that. We should just have the best Fight the best at each weight class. It really shouldnt be this complicated. We all follow Boxing here, to 1 extent or the other. But if we want to add the casual fans, sitting in A Bar who just want to see Competitive Fights, we need to have the best Fighting the best. Your average fan, guzzling Beer, Watching MLB/NFL/NBA on TV, couldnt care less about promoters, tv channels, and ****. We need to expand the fan base, enough with this alphabet silliness etc., to try to get them to turn their TV over to Boxing!

RANT OVER!!!

[Blackclouds]

It is a fact. A fact the judge cited, from the evidence, while throwing out that sham of a case. From the judges ruling:




But you're blaming Haymon?

So you go from telling me to stop speculating and to present facts. Then I present facts and you deny them. And you continue to ask me to speculate. Which one is it? Do you want me to speculate or not?

Damn you owned this anti-Haymon fanboy. Very difficult to have a reasonable discussion with these types running around. It's pretty obvious these types aren't going to hold these other outfits accountable. Boxing fans are so full of ****.

[original zero]

you're bias is making you completely irrational. Fox spending more now than before WTF? They haven't spent .10 on boxing lmao. Those are time buys for their whole 2 fights a year.

It's already been explained that Fox owns other channels. PBC is regularly featured on FS1 and those shows are not time buys.

Almost all of the fighters I mentioned have openly complained about inactivity. We have seen Thurman, Porter, Jacobs, Berto, Pedraza, Vanes, etc OPENLY COMPLAIN about inactivity. Clearly they aren't happy campers. Point Blank. Mic dropped

How many of those fighters wish they never signed with Haymon?

[original zero]

Man alive, this stuff is way too confusing. All this alphabet soup and all that. We should just have the best Fight the best at each weight class.

But what if the best are signed to four different promoters and they don't want to cooperate?

[NYG]

Man alive, this stuff is way too confusing. All this alphabet soup and all that. We should just have the best Fight the best at each weight class. It really shouldnt be this complicated. We all follow Boxing here, to 1 extent or the other. But if we want to add the casual fans, sitting in A Bar who just want to see Competitive Fights, we need to have the best Fighting the best. Your average fan, guzzling Beer, Watching MLB/NFL/NBA on TV, couldnt care less about promoters, tv channels, and ****. We need to expand the fan base, enough with this alphabet silliness etc., to try to get them to turn their TV over to Boxing!

RANT OVER!!!

Lmao good post. The average regular guy watching boxing will walk away if you start talking all this promoter and tv network bull****

[OnePunch]

It is a fact. A fact the judge cited, from the evidence, while throwing out that sham of a case. From the judges ruling:




But you're blaming Haymon?

So you go from telling me to stop speculating and to present facts. Then I present facts and you deny them. And you continue to ask me to speculate. Which one is it? Do you want me to speculate or not?

im not "blaming" anyone. Im saying each of these groups have their own self interests at heart. YOU are trying to proscribe blame to Golden Boy about a Garcia-Linares fight that you dont even know if Haymon tried to make in the first place.

And as for the comment about Ortiz-Wilder? What is so shocking about the idea that a company might not want to attempt to do business with someone they are suing for $300 million dollars? That doesnt strike me as odd. But that would only account for GBP. What about every other non-PBC promoter on the planet? You cant list a SINGLE INSTANCE in THREE YEARS of a credible non-PBC fighter fighting in a PBC main event.

but but but but golden boy doe

[killakali]

It's already been explained that Fox owns other channels. PBC is regularly featured on FS1 and those shows are not time buys.




How many of those fighters wish they never signed with Haymon?

fs1 was already shoring Golden Boy cards so sorry try again and they are tine buys.