Where would David Tua rank in Today's Heavy Weight Division

[The Time]

Rahman was winning the fight & Tua hooked him after the bell & then the stoppage was pretty bad as Rahman was throwing punches & wasn't hurt. The ref during the interview after (Telis Assominias or whatever his name was) admitted to jumping the gun & stopping it early. The 2nd fight Rahman should have won. He got up to 260 for the fight & said before he wanted the extra weight to take that hook better. It worked & he threw 80 punches a round. It wasn't lopsided but Rahman should have got the nod. The WBC thought so to because they gave Rahman a shot at the title...

Oh right, I remember when Rahman got his bell rung after the 9th round ended. Then in the 10th the fight was stopped. Yeah, he was winning 89-82 on the scorecards. In the second fight the scoring was strange. One judge had Tua winning 116-112 another judge had Rahman winning 116-112 and the third had it 114-114.

I remember the Tua-Ruiz fight, ouch. John Ruiz really lived up to his nickname in that fight "The Quiet Man"

Even though he was brutally knocked out badly in 19 seconds. He came back strong, as ugly as his style was, but he did come back and lasted a long time. If he and Tua had a rematch years later during Ruiz streak as champ, he would have done a lot better than when they fought the first time. Talking about Ruiz.

The missing link during that time of course was Ike Ibeabuchi. Unfortunately for him, he fell into trouble and spent his prime years behind bars.

[Gillie]

Oh right, I remember when Rahman got his bell rung after the 9th round ended. Then in the 10th the fight was stopped. Yeah, he was winning 89-82 on the scorecards. In the second fight the scoring was strange. One judge had Tua winning 116-112 another judge had Rahman winning 116-112 and the third had it 114-114.

I remember the Tua-Ruiz fight, ouch. John Ruiz really lived up to his nickname in that fight "The Quiet Man"

Even though he was brutally knocked out badly in 19 seconds. He came back strong, as ugly as his style was, but he did come back and lasted a long time. If he and Tua had a rematch years later during Ruiz streak as champ, he would have done a lot better than when they fought the first time. Talking about Ruiz.

The missing link during that time of course was Ike Ibeabuchi. Unfortunately for him, he fell into trouble and spent his prime years behind bars.

Oh Man!!! Ibeabuchi. This thread should have been about where he would rank among today's heavyweights. He was the total package: Good technique, great power, great chin and great stamina. I would like his chances against anyone today.

[-Kev-]

A 5'10" HW from an era where there were no real giants and when he did fight the best giant of his era he lost (Lennox Lewis), suddenly entering an era where 6'4" is kinda in the short side?

Maybe he'd be no more than #6. It would be interesting if he can even get past #5 ranked King Kong.

The HW division almost looks like the taller the fighter is the higher their rank. Look at #5 Luis Ortiz at 6'4", Pulev at 6'4 1/2", Wlad at 6'6", Wilder at 6'7" but hasn't fought the next guy, Joshua 6'6" and finally the top guy 6'9" Tyson Fury.

It's almost as if your ranking is dependent of your height. The oddball out is really Dominic Breazale at 6'7", but then you look at his physique and can kinda wonder why he's at the bottom. Fury is not in all that great physique, but maybe his height coupled with his skill just drowns his physique when it comes to his ability to win.

[mlac]

A 5'10" HW from an era where there were no real giants and when he did fight the best giant of his era he lost (Lennox Lewis), suddenly entering an era where 6'4" is kinda in the short side?

Maybe he'd be no more than #6. It would be interesting if he can even get past #5 ranked King Kong.

The HW division almost looks like the taller the fighter is the higher their rank. Look at #5 Luis Ortiz at 6'4", Pulev at 6'4 1/2", Wlad at 6'6", Wilder at 6'7" but hasn't fought the next guy, Joshua 6'6" and finally the top guy 6'9" Tyson Fury.

It's almost as if your ranking is dependent of your height. The oddball out is really Dominic Breazale at 6'7", but then you look at his physique and can kinda wonder why he's at the bottom. Fury is not in all that great physique, but maybe his height coupled with his skill just drowns his physique when it comes to his ability to win.

Height means nothing, Valuev was 7 foot tall and lost to a 50 year old holyfield ffs. You need to skills to MAKE it an advantage, its not automatically the be all end all...

I guarantee you, none of those guys you named could take a flush left hook from prime Tua, and be conscious after the fact.

[-Kev-]

Height means nothing, Valuev was 7 foot tall and lost to a 50 year old holyfield ffs. You need to skills to MAKE it an advantage, its not automatically the be all end all...

I guarantee you, none of those guys you named could take a flush left hook from prime Tua, and be conscious after the fact.

Valuev sucks.

Of course height is not everything. But when you're good and have height and reach as an advantage, yeah it ****ing matters lol.

Hence Floyd having a longer reach than everyone he fought, it freaking mattered dude, cause he was damn good.

So yeah it matters.

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Well he fought to a practical draw with ike and ike was the greatest heavyweight of all time because he had big muscles so tua is also the GOAT

[boliodogs]

He was good but never the best. I think he might do well today but he wouldn't be the best. I think AJ and a mentally and physically fit Fury would beat him. He might beat Wilder and Ortiz. Those are even fights. He would beat Parker in my opinion.

[The Time]

Oh Man!!! Ibeabuchi. This thread should have been about where he would rank among today's heavyweights. He was the total package: Good technique, great power, great chin and great stamina. I would like his chances against anyone today.

Yeah, he took David Tua's punches for 12 rounds and out punched David Tua.

Yeah, Ike Ibeabuchi would have been a very dangerous threat against all of todays Heavyweights. He probably would beat all of todays Heavyweights.

[betmen]

idk about overall ranking but im sure he will have the best chin

[Elroy The Great]

i dont understand how tua couldnt have captured one of the belts. prime tua today and hes chopping down trees all day long. chins and bodies would be getting wrecked.

he would certainly be a champ today (post prime wlad era).