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  • Curt Henning
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    #51
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    Why is Ward Golovkin a better fight for boxing or do you mean it's a more competitive fight? G and Canelo seems to be what the Mexican fans want and they are a huge market.
    i said "ward and golovkin is a better fight"...u added "for boxing" on your own...and yes i meant as a competitive/fair matchup

    golovkins trainer has been on record as saying 168 would be his best weight...and even saying he can beat anyone at 175 right now....

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      #52
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      One reason Ward doesn't get love is his boxing style. It's effective but some of it borders on illegal. It's not crowd pleasing. If he beats a fighter he doesn't pick up some of their fans because if his fighting style. He also went into retirement due to his legal problems. It's tough to build a fan base if your not active. There was an issue recently where Kovalev and Ward skipped promotional interviews. This stuff matters..
      floyds boxing style was boring as hell too...but people bought him...why? because he "cooned"....which ward doesnt do

      ward was off for a year and half because of an issue/issues....hardly the first guy to ever do that

      and lets be honest..."if he beats a fighter he doesnt pick up some of their fans because his fighting style"...thats a crock of ****

      people who follow boxing are watching ward...real fans of boxing...they know his standing in the sport and will always watch because of his pedigree.....you are another one that somehow believes casuals matter....they matter to guys like canelo or add buys to a fight like floyd/pac...but other than that casuals dont matter

      ward skipping out on a 5 minute segment faceoff will not effect this ppvs sales on bit....those who want to buy/see this fight already have their mind made up to buy it...a 5 minute segment on hbo, that only the diehards will watch anyway, isnt going to produce a huge uptick in sales

      ward has shown up to all pressers...posed for pics...dont interviews...showed up for live interview on canelos ppv and will also likely being participating in a 24/7 episode....hes done alot to help this ppv sell

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        #53
        Not picking up fans because of his boxing style isn't a crock. It's a fact. After the Leonard Hearns fight I became a fan of Hearns. Prior to that I was indifferent to him. I'd say your not a boxing fan. A true fan has an open mind and appreciates a good performance.

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          #54
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          Not picking up fans because of his boxing style isn't a crock. It's a fact. After the Leonard Hearns fight I became a fan of Hearns. Prior to that I was indifferent to him. I'd say your not a boxing fan. A true fan has an open mind and appreciates a good performance.
          lol...what a joke

          the bottom line is ward has been, and is, a top 5 p4p fighter...when he fights, real boxing fans, will watch regardless of how friendly his style is to "casuals".......if you are a boxing fan you follow the sport and all the top guys regardless of how boring their style may be to some

          if rigo fights are you not going to watch? did you not watch floyd fight?

          like i said...floyds style was boring...but people watched...because he "cooned"...u do know what that means right?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            i said "ward and golovkin is a better fight"...u added "for boxing" on your own...and yes i meant as a competitive/fair matchup

            golovkins trainer has been on record as saying 168 would be his best weight...and even saying he can beat anyone at 175 right now....
            I added it because I wasn't sure what you meant by that. That why I added "or do you mean it's a more competitive fight". It was a question.

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              #56
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              I added it because I wasn't sure what you meant by that. That why I added "or do you mean it's a more competitive fight". It was a question.
              well thats fair...and i think i answered your question

              but...when you add words to my statement its almost implying that im saying something definitive...

              anyways...yes...ward/golovkin IMO is the better fight...canelo/golovkin is the fight boxing/the media wants...better for them

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                #57
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                lol...what a joke

                the bottom line is ward has been, and is, a top 5 p4p fighter...when he fights, real boxing fans, will watch regardless of how friendly his style is to "casuals".......if you are a boxing fan you follow the sport and all the top guys regardless of how boring their style may be to some

                if rigo fights are you not going to watch? did you not watch floyd fight?

                like i said...floyds style was boring...but people watched...because he "cooned"...u do know what that means right?
                Calling people casuals is an easy way not to face reality. As far as Cooning goes I don't use racist terms.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  well thats fair...and i think i answered your question

                  but...when you add words to my statement its almost implying that im saying something definitive...

                  anyways...yes...ward/golovkin IMO is the better fight...canelo/golovkin is the fight boxing/the media wants...better for them
                  Ok got it.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TonyGe
                    Calling people casuals is an easy way not to face reality. As far as Cooning goes I don't use racist terms.
                    its not a racist term...its just a term

                    if ward was out there acting like floyd it would be the same garbage from the media "ward is a floyd knockoff/wannabe with no class or morals who acts like a buffoon out of the ring...its really a tired act weve seen before"

                    but ward doesnt do that...he acts right...and he still dont get any love or respect because certain people arent entertained enough by the way he continually wins....

                    ward has done more than his fair share to promote this fight.....casuals arent into his rematch with kovalev..it doesnt appeal to them...they werent into the first one either.....and to be honest the casuals dont matter...they matter in rare cases like a canelo..or a pac/floyd fight....they push a pac floyd fight from 2.5 mil to 4 mil...other than that they dont matter

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      its not a racist term...its just a term

                      if ward was out there acting like floyd it would be the same garbage from the media "ward is a floyd knockoff/wannabe with no class or morals who acts like a buffoon out of the ring...its really a tired act weve seen before"

                      but ward doesnt do that...he acts right...and he still dont get any love or respect because certain people arent entertained enough by the way he continually wins....

                      ward has done more than his fair share to promote this fight.....casuals arent into his rematch with kovalev..it doesnt appeal to them...they werent into the first one either.....and to be honest the casuals dont matter...they matter in rare cases like a canelo..or a pac/floyd fight....they push a pac floyd fight from 2.5 mil to 4 mil...other than that they dont matter
                      I'm not an American. I personally wouldn't use that term if I were talking. To me that term is rooted in some very negative imagery. I have a rough idea what its all about. Its a way to suppress ideas that run counter to the mainstream. I really don't care to use it.

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