It is worth avenging losses in my eyes. He shouldn't go out of his way for it, but if he needs to fill a slot before moving up to 135 and can't get anyone better, I think it is worthwhile.
What does a win over Salido mean for Lomachenko at this point in time?
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I think its a win that will feel underwhelming to many fans & pundits, but I believe its important for the great story of Loma. Guy lost a fight in the amateurs in 8 million fights or whatever & avenged it. Then he lost his 2nd fight in his entire boxing career in the pros & its just a fight that Loma's story needs to have avenged.
I will say if he was more active this probably wouldn't feel like so much of stepback to some fans & pundits, but its damn near a destiny rematch for Loma.Comment
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You seem to be implying that if they rematch, and Lomachenko is able to beat him like most people expect, it will have virtually everything to do with Salido's decline as a fighter rather than Lomachenko's growth as a fighter.How exactly would it highlight his growth if the Salido of today is older and has been through some hellacious wars since? I'm sure that if the inexperienced Lomachenko on his second fight took on the 2017 Version of Salido, he would have won.
I'm in no way, shape or form downplaying Loma's talent. The guy is one of my favorite fighters and such a pleasure to watch. Personally I don't give too much of a damn that he lost to a much more experienced man on his 2nd fight, but the situation itself is a bit cruel for Lomachenko. He may very well move on and continue down the path of success and greatness, but a loss to Salido is still a loss... to a one dimensional slugger with rough house tactics.
I rather in intriguing situation.
True. I think Lomachenko would end Salido at this point. Too much has happened since. Salido has lost considerable amount of shelf life and steam, meanwhile Lomachenko has gained it.
Well, yeah. I mean, Mikey G. Is one of the only legitimate threats near Lomachenko' s weight. It be hard to label Lomachenko a sucker since he's fought the likes of Russel Jr and Walters within 9 fights.
I simply don't agree with that opinion and do not think it holds water. Salido has been through a fight of the year, but let's not act like he's completely shot. He's had like 4 fights in 3 years.Comment
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Its one of them things that time will tell. But how many people outside of hardcores know who Fulmer or Turpin are? Or even if someone knows the names, the reason is almost certainly because they fought Robinson. They have no real knowledge of those guys careers, who they fought, their records or were they shot. None of that. When looking at legacies decades down the road, things become much more abstract. Because of that, avenging a loss matters in a historical context even if it does'nt really mean much in the present.
But will Salido even be remembered as a significant fighter by then? Currently he is because of the relevance of the names he's fought but none of those names aside from Lomachenko seem to have longevity. Although Vargas, Lopez and Martinez are or were good names at the time he faced them, they aren't special enough not to be forgotten in the history books. The only thing that separates Salido from being one of those names is his win over Vasyl and Vasyl's own potential of becoming a great.
All that said it might be for nothing if Loma ends up getting his ass beat and not having the kind of career many think he will have.Comment
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For those who hate him, it will do nothing, for those who like him, they will claim salido was fine (which he may be) and it was a good win. For pure fans of the sport, they will understand that it's not about the L so much as it's about being able to say he's beaten everyone he's faced. For any competitor, a loss is difficult, and taking that loss back with a win (especially if it's done in incredible fashion) is really about having the right mentality back.It won't clear the blemish on his record and I doubt his detractors would give him credit.
Especially since Salido hasn't won a fight in some time, has been in wars since and is pretty damn old.
Lomachenko has learned alot from the loss and many claim that the defeat came due to a size difference and Salido's rough house tactics. However, Lomachenko has fought the likes of Nicholas Walters since the blemish. A big physical fighter with more technical talent than Orlando, and made him submit rather easily.
Difficult situation for Lomachenko. If he hunts down a rematch and beats Salido, well, he just beat a worn torn, washed up fighter who already has over a dozen losses on his record.
If he were to never rematch him then he will forever hold an L to Siri and his detractors will continue to call him SOS(Son of Salido). Plus, that's a loss to a guy whom holds more losses than Lomachenko has fights in his career.
Would a win over Orlando at this stage be a personal victory for Lomachenko and nothing else? Would a win hold any significance at this point in the sport and or weight division?Comment
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Beating Salido is a waste of time. Salido got on Loma early and did lots of "rough tactics". In the last 4 rounds or so Loma was tagging Salido at will, but he was too far behind on the cards to catch up. It was a close fight and could be scored either way tbh. Also, the referee (Laurence Cole) is a crooked ****Comment
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To me; nothing. Salido has been in several serious wars since they fought, losing a couple of those and just took a year off. He'll be 37 by the time they fight. I think it's a cheap win. Loma could be taking on a real challenge instead.Comment
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