What does a win over Salido mean for Lomachenko at this point in time?

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  • Aztekkas
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    What does a win over Salido mean for Lomachenko at this point in time?

    It won't clear the blemish on his record and I doubt his detractors would give him credit.

    Especially since Salido hasn't won a fight in some time, has been in wars since and is pretty damn old.

    Lomachenko has learned alot from the loss and many claim that the defeat came due to a size difference and Salido's rough house tactics. However, Lomachenko has fought the likes of Nicholas Walters since the blemish. A big physical fighter with more technical talent than Orlando, and made him submit rather easily.

    Difficult situation for Lomachenko. If he hunts down a rematch and beats Salido, well, he just beat a worn torn, washed up fighter who already has over a dozen losses on his record.

    If he were to never rematch him then he will forever hold an L to Siri and his detractors will continue to call him SOS(Son of Salido). Plus, that's a loss to a guy whom holds more losses than Lomachenko has fights in his career.

    Would a win over Orlando at this stage be a personal victory for Lomachenko and nothing else? Would a win hold any significance at this point in the sport and or weight division?
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    A win over Saldio (which is not guaranteed) would highlight Lomachenko's growth as a professional and have little to no impact on the standings in the division.

    The whole "he has a blemish in his career" is a bunch of bull**** that idiots who dislike the guy will use for the rest of his career strictly because they're idiots. Pac also has an early loss in his career, as does Bernard Hopkins, and a ton of other greats. None of them hold any meaning.

    It's absolutely not a difficult situation for Lomachenko. He'll take the rematch if he can and try to avenge his loss. If he can't, he'll move on with his life just like he alread has.

    As for the detractors you mention, it does not matter whether he rematches Salido or not. They will spin a narrative that puts down Loma in either case. There are many fools in the world. Majority of these "fans" fall into that category.

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    • johnm is...
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      No a whole hell of a lot, aside from sweet revenge.

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      • UNBIASED BOXING
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        It means the haters will have to be approach the hate from a new angle. Probably call Lomachenko a ducker for not fighting Mikey G. despite already moving up in weight relatively recently, lmao.

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          Originally posted by Aztekkas
          It won't clear the blemish on his record and I doubt his detractors would give him credit.

          Especially since Salido hasn't won a fight in some time, has been in wars since and is pretty damn old.

          Lomachenko has learned alot from the loss and many claim that the defeat came due to a size difference and Salido's rough house tactics. However, Lomachenko has fought the likes of Nicholas Walters since the blemish. A big physical fighter with more technical talent than Orlando, and made him submit rather easily.

          Difficult situation for Lomachenko. If he hunts down a rematch and beats Salido, well, he just beat a worn torn, washed up fighter who already has over a dozen losses on his record.

          If he were to never rematch him then he will forever hold an L to Siri and his detractors will continue to call him SOS(Son of Salido). Plus, that's a loss to a guy whom holds more losses than Lomachenko has fights in his career.

          Would a win over Orlando at this stage be a personal victory for Lomachenko and nothing else? Would a win hold any significance at this point in the sport and or weight division?
          Nothing other than quiet down his detractors for a day.

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          • Gurgutt
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            Salido is the second guy who Loma lost to.
            His first loss was to Saliev which he later erased by two wins.
            If he does this again with Salido he might be regarded undefeated, kind of.

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            • Aztekkas
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              Originally posted by j0zef
              A win over Saldio (which is not guaranteed) would highlight Lomachenko's growth as a professional and have little to no impact on the standings in the division.

              The whole "he has a blemish in his career" is a bunch of bull**** that idiots who dislike the guy will use for the rest of his career strictly because they're idiots. Pac also has an early loss in his career, as does Bernard Hopkins, and a ton of other greats. None of them hold any meaning.

              It's absolutely not a difficult situation for Lomachenko. He'll take the rematch if he can and try to avenge his loss. If he can't, he'll move on with his life just like he alread has.

              As for the detractors you mention, it does not matter whether he rematches Salido or not. They will spin a narrative that puts down Loma in either case. There are many fools in the world. Majority of these "fans" fall into that category.
              How exactly would it highlight his growth if the Salido of today is older and has been through some hellacious wars since? I'm sure that if the inexperienced Lomachenko on his second fight took on the 2017 Version of Salido, he would have won.

              I'm in no way, shape or form downplaying Loma's talent. The guy is one of my favorite fighters and such a pleasure to watch. Personally I don't give too much of a damn that he lost to a much more experienced man on his 2nd fight, but the situation itself is a bit cruel for Lomachenko. He may very well move on and continue down the path of success and greatness, but a loss to Salido is still a loss... to a one dimensional slugger with rough house tactics.

              I rather in intriguing situation.

              Originally posted by johnm is...
              No a whole hell of a lot, aside from sweet revenge.
              True. I think Lomachenko would end Salido at this point. Too much has happened since. Salido has lost considerable amount of shelf life and steam, meanwhile Lomachenko has gained it.

              Originally posted by SniXSniPe
              It means the haters will have to be approach the hate from a new angle. Probably call Lomachenko a ducker for not fighting Mikey G. despite already moving up in weight relatively recently, lmao.
              Well, yeah. I mean, Mikey G. Is one of the only legitimate threats near Lomachenko' s weight. It be hard to label Lomachenko a sucker since he's fought the likes of Russel Jr and Walters within 9 fights.

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              • g27region
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                Originally posted by Aztekkas
                It won't clear the blemish on his record and I doubt his detractors would give him credit.

                Especially since Salido hasn't won a fight in some time, has been in wars since and is pretty damn old.

                Lomachenko has learned alot from the loss and many claim that the defeat came due to a size difference and Salido's rough house tactics. However, Lomachenko has fought the likes of Nicholas Walters since the blemish. A big physical fighter with more technical talent than Orlando, and made him submit rather easily.

                Difficult situation for Lomachenko. If he hunts down a rematch and beats Salido, well, he just beat a worn torn, washed up fighter who already has over a dozen losses on his record.

                If he were to never rematch him then he will forever hold an L to Siri and his detractors will continue to call him SOS(Son of Salido). Plus, that's a loss to a guy whom holds more losses than Lomachenko has fights in his career.

                Would a win over Orlando at this stage be a personal victory for Lomachenko and nothing else? Would a win hold any significance at this point in the sport and or weight division?
                Some boxing fans says Lomachenko still got Salido's problems - that's the only reason why he has to take that fight and he doesn't even HAVE A RIGHT to not make this fight happen only because of these people.

                He doesn't care much about the rematch - he said another fight with Salido is a step back for him as a boxer and that he's willing to make a rematch Salido only because of his fans

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                • GhostofDempsey
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                  I think Loma should focus on moving to 135 and try to get a fight with Linares before Mikey can get in with him. Beating Salido won't quiet the detractors (hell, if Loma beat Thurman, Canelo, Ward and Joshua on the same night it wouldn't quiet his haters), so he is better off moving on from that one loss early in his career. Hopkins lost his very first fight as a pro, but moved on from it and made a name for himself and secured his place in the IBHOF. If Loma continues to run through top tier fighters at 130/135 he puts more distance between him and that one loss to Salido. He can also look Mikey in the eye and say that he didn't look for an easy out against Salido crying about his nose.

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                  • redmish
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                    Originally posted by johnm is...
                    No a whole hell of a lot, aside from sweet revenge.
                    This. I think he should do it for his own peace of mind and then move on.

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