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  • boxingitis
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    #61
    Originally posted by Metho_4u
    Golovkin is not a concussive puncher...his wins are largely by bodyshot, ref or corner stoppage...at the upper level (which is really only 1 fight) was a decision because it was against someone with movement and defense, and he never got brook off his feet...both were 8-1 and 6-1 underdogs. I don't know why people are still at a loss at really analysing this fight. With all of golovkins previous opponents, they did not have nearly the offensive skill of Alvarez, along with superior head movement. You don't think canelo is better than Jacobs? Why don't you take a look at his combination punching a little more, really look at it. We've ALL seen the so called great golovkin and his tricks...buts he's all out. I know, I know "his jab doe", "his jab will be soooo effective", blah blah, so if we all see that, you don't think canelo sees that? You don't think his trainer sees that? You don't think they will be working their camp around that? How will golovkin prepare? The guy is 35 and has shown ALL of what he's able to do. I'm telling you, golovkin is getting lit up like a firecracker....if not? Then cong**** to him on holding out his entire career for 1 payday. Go fight Saunders and unify like you claimed you wanted to do and that will be that.
    Canelo is all propaganda, tell who has he beaten. Barely beats Lara and Trout (thats all he has), the same way GGG barely beat Jacobs. They are both at the same level. The only reason people don't duck Canelo is because he brings Cash. Canelo aint better than Lomachenko or Crawford, yet he brings in more dough. Who ever wins this fight Props to that person. I don't care who wins as long it's a good fight. I pay to see the best fight the best, not cheering for anyone. I favor GGG, but it's a 50-50 fight.

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    • Metho_4u
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      #62
      Originally posted by boxingitis
      Canelo is all propaganda, tell who has he beaten. Barely beats Lara and Trout (thats all he has), the same way GGG barely beat Jacobs. They are both at the same level. The only reason people don't duck Canelo is because he brings Cash. Canelo aint better than Lomachenko or Crawford, yet he brings in more dough. Who ever wins this fight Props to that person. I don't care who wins as long it's a good fight. I pay to see the best fight the best, not cheering for anyone. I favor GGG, but it's a 50-50 fight.
      No, p4p he's not better than crawford or lomachenko, but both of them are LEVELS above golovkin.

      Canelo has beaten Lara, trout (while undefeated), and a very good cotto at that time imo. His head movement is better, hand speed is more, combinations are much improved and if 20 year old canelo was 50/50 with golovkin then 26 year old canelo beats him

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      • T18Z
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        #63
        Originally posted by Metho_4u
        No, p4p he's not better than crawford or lomachenko, but both of them are LEVELS above golovkin.

        Canelo has beaten Lara, trout (while undefeated), and a very good cotto at that time imo. His head movement is better, hand speed is more, combinations are much improved and if 20 year old canelo was 50/50 with golovkin then 26 year old canelo beats him
        Very good Cotto at the time?

        Cotto was shot to ****, let's be real. Just because he knocked out a drained zombie in Daniel Geale and beat a wheelchair bound Sergio Martinez does not mean anything.

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        • LetOutTheCage
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          #64
          Originally posted by Bjl12
          This is all a steaming pile of dog****. Danny Jacobs and his trainer are very respectable people. They don't do any trash talking at all and come off as really good people, honestly. I take them at their word and I believe they said Danny was ~178 just before the fight.

          Guess what? I believe Danny was 178 on fight night...because there's absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise regarding lies or bs from Danny/his trainer. Good, stand-up people.


          When Roach/Manny/Arum/Canelo/Canelo's trainers/Abel/Gennady/Floyd/Any Mayweather/De La Hoya say stuff like that...I'm skeptical. Why? Because there's a precedence of those guys lying or talking out their @ss. That precedence doesn't exist for Danny and his trainer. Seem like honest, stand-up guys
          Nothing to suggest otherwise? Then why didn't they weight in (which would have allowed them to get the IBF fight if they had won)? you're very argument is that team jacobs are respectful and don't trash talk so they must be telling the truth which is moronic beyond belief. You have shown already that you clearly have an agenda hear by calling Golovkin triple L and disregarding any valid points people have made. If you dont think Jacobs was significantly bigger in that fight then there's no point even trying to argue with you.

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          • Metho_4u
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            #65
            Originally posted by T18Z
            Very good Cotto at the time?

            Cotto was shot to ****, let's be real. Just because he knocked out a drained zombie in Daniel Geale and beat a wheelchair bound Sergio Martinez does not mean anything.
            I think that's pushing it a bit. Cotto looked excellent in the fight. His movement was good, punches were sharp, canelo happened to be better, but cotto showed good defense as well, not getting hit clean very often. Yes, I would say cotto looked good at that time.

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            • Graz
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              #66
              Floyd handled Canelo easily with superior skills and without the power behind them. I see Golovkin out boxing Canelo much like he did with Lemieux. That fight convinced me of Golovkin's adaptability. I would like to see Canelo fight Jacobs but there too I would give the edge to Jacobs, again based on skill and power.

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              • Metho_4u
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                #67
                Originally posted by Graz
                Floyd handled Canelo easily with superior skills and without the power behind them. I see Golovkin out boxing Canelo much like he did with Lemieux. That fight convinced me of Golovkin's adaptability. I would like to see Canelo fight Jacobs but there too I would give the edge to Jacobs, again based on skill and power.
                So, you're putting golovkin on the level of Floyd now?

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                • Graz
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Metho_4u
                  So, you're putting golovkin on the level of Floyd now?
                  Not really. What I'm saying is that Canelo couldn't handle Floyds skills. IMO the level of Golovkin's skills with the additional component of power might be too much for Canelo just as it was too much for Lemieux. I realize Canelo has improved since the Floyd experience but he hasn't faced anyone like Golovkin. I personally think Jacobs would beat Canelo. Just an opinion.

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                  • Metho_4u
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Graz
                    Not really. What I'm saying is that Canelo couldn't handle Floyds skills. IMO the level of Golovkin's skills with the additional component of power might be too much for Canelo just as it was too much for Lemieux. I realize Canelo has improved since the Floyd experience but he hasn't faced anyone like Golovkin. I personally think Jacobs would beat Canelo. Just an opinion.
                    Lemieux is a C level fighter, golovkin beat him easily because he sucks. Floyd was an A+ level fighter, that's why canelo couldn't beat him. The same reason 48 others besides canelo couldn't beat him. Your logic really isn't there.

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                    • Graz
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Metho_4u
                      Lemieux is a C level fighter, golovkin beat him easily because he sucks. Floyd was an A+ level fighter, that's why canelo couldn't beat him. The same reason 48 others besides canelo couldn't beat him. Your logic really isn't there.
                      Maybe so. I guess we'll all see after the fight.

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