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  • #41
    neither has canelo, dont think any of them were top 10 p4p fighters who he beat. he fought one and looked like a novice.

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    • #42
      P4P rankings are irrelevant and subjective. What matters are his rankings in his respective division, which is middleweight and he has beaten many top ranked middleweights.

      I could careless if Canelo Alvarez goes on to beat more higher ranked 'P4P' boxers like Guillermo Rigondeaux, Roman Gonzalez and etc. Doesn't make him a better 'middleweight' than GGG. Beating higher ranked P4P opponents who are much smaller isn't as impressive as beating lower ranked P4P opponents who are much bigger, heavier and are also top ranked in your own natural weight division that you compete in.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
        neither has canelo, dont think any of them were top 10 p4p fighters who he beat. he fought one and looked like a novice.
        Yeah, but nobody ranks him in the top 5, let alone at number one.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
          neither has canelo, dont think any of them were top 10 p4p fighters who he beat. he fought one and looked like a novice.
          cotto was...
          http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...iao-stays-no-2

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          • #45
            why do you all keep bringing up pirog, he was a good fighter, losses happen in boxing. Jacobs was a decent win Geegg is a bit overrated but hes tough as nails

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            • #46
              Originally posted by icha View Post
              **** knows how, how the **** can he be on p4p4 list after losing almost every round to trout, garbage list that is

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              • #47
                Less put it this way, Daniel Jacobs might be ranked lower in a P4P sense than someone like Manny Pacquiao or Shane Mosley, but he is still a more dangerous opponent than them. Canelo fights skillful opponents that are lighter than himself and sometimes much lighter. GGG fights skillful opponents who are his own size or even bigger. That's the main difference! GGG isn't a weight bully, Canelo Alvarez is.

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                • #48
                  Damn ****ting on nela he isn't p4p to you? cause gggs beating him come September

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Tabaristio View Post
                    P4P rankings are irrelevant and subjective. What matters are his rankings in his respective division, which is middleweight and he has beaten many top ranked middleweights.

                    I could careless if Canelo Alvarez goes on to beat more higher ranked 'P4P' boxers like Guillermo Rigondeaux, Roman Gonzalez and etc. Doesn't make him a better 'middleweight' than GGG. Beating higher ranked P4P opponents who are much smaller isn't as impressive as beating lower ranked P4P opponents who are much bigger, heavier and are also top ranked in your own natural weight division that you compete in.
                    There was probably a 10 pound difference between the two and again, how he is rated in the weak middleweight division is irrelevant. And you know what's really impressive? Beating a fighter that is both higher ranked and bigger.

                    P4P rankings are subjective, only to a certain point. The main criteria are level of opposition and dominance. Golovkin supposed dominance was inflated by the poor level of opposition he faced, which was proven against Jacobs. Him beating Jacobs at least more convincingly than a no name would've justified his position.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
                      **** knows how, how the **** can he be on p4p4 list after losing almost every round to trout, garbage list that is
                      he put up a good fight with floyd, lost to a young undefeated champ in trout, then destroyed delvin, maravilla and geale in a row... im sure if you can find any other list from repectable sites before the canelo fight cotto was in their top 10 in most of them ... by the way isnt espn the same site that has ggg as number 1?
                      and as a side note, ggg him self was in nacion espn (spanish show) giving his p4p list prior to canelo-cotto and he held both high in his list...

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