Golovking still hasn't beaten a P4P fighter

[j0zef]

Heh, the repercussions and storylines from Canelo / Golovkin are pretty humorous.

For example, Canelo is not on a p4p list right now, so even if Golovkin beats him, nothing will have changed. He may not even leapfrog Ward to the #1 spot.
However if Canelo beats him, there are many people who are ready to anoint Canelo #1 P4P.

The sad truth is that Golovkin may never fight a p4p fighter because there are none that he can fight. And don't go starting another ward flame war.
His best chance may be moving up to 175 in a couple of years and hope either ward or kov want to fight him.

[KingHippo]

You said back to the facts, and thats a fact.. He is P4P #1.

You know people who know their **** voted and said GGG is the BEST FIGHTER AMONG ALL WEIGHTCLASSES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

Respectable people, not a random degenerate like you.

You mentioned ****ing ESPN you dumb@ss, who the **** looks at ESPN for P4P rankings?!?!?

Shriveled d1ck twat

[KingHippo]

Heh, the repercussions and storylines from Canelo / Golovkin are pretty humorous.

For example, Canelo is not on a p4p list right now, so even if Golovkin beats him, nothing will have changed. He may not even leapfrog Ward to the #1 spot.
However if Canelo beats him, there are many people who are ready to anoint Canelo #1 P4P.

The sad truth is that Golovkin may never fight a p4p fighter because there are none that he can fight. And don't go starting another ward flame war.
His best chance may be moving up to 175 in a couple of years and hope either ward or kov want to fight him.

If that is the case, he has to do a better performance against non ranked fighters to justify his position. Pretty simple, nah?

[Joe Beamish]

Did Marvin Hagler ever beat a fighter that was P4P at the time of the fight? Doubt it. He must have ******.

[KingHippo]

Did Marvin Hagler ever beat a fighter that was P4P at the time of the fight? Doubt it. He must have ******.

I'd answer you but I'll let you hang yourself with this one

[j0zef]

If that is the case, he has to do a better performance against non ranked fighters to justify his position. Pretty simple, nah?

Nah, that's a double edged sword. Whenever he wins easily, his opponent is automatically put in the "tomato can" category. If he was able to finish off Jacobs after the KD, he would be labeled a glass chin bum that already lost to Pirog (7 years ago), just like Lemieux.

The beauty of these discussions is that in boxing, you can make a case for virtually any opinion, since none of this is scientific. When you hate a fighter, you can make a case he's doing the wrong thing no matter what action he takes or how he does it. No matter what happened in that fight, people would find a reason to whine. Nothing will change in the Canelo fight. Whether he gets outboxed over 12 or knocks out Canelo in 5 seconds, there will always be a narrative of how Golovkin sucks.

[Finito2K]

He had an unconvincing win against an unrated fighter who got flattened in 5 rounds by Dmitry Pirog.

A lot of people based his ranking on his supposed dominance on the division. He didn't look all that dominant against Jacobs.

After his last performance, I don't think he deserves that ranking.

No different than Bernard Hopkins career prior to facing Felix Trinidad.

[Canelo and GGG]

Heh, the repercussions and storylines from Canelo / Golovkin are pretty humorous.

For example, Canelo is not on a p4p list right now, so even if Golovkin beats him, nothing will have changed. He may not even leapfrog Ward to the #1 spot.
However if Canelo beats him, there are many people who are ready to anoint Canelo #1 P4P.

The sad truth is that Golovkin may never fight a p4p fighter because there are none that he can fight. And don't go starting another ward flame war.
His best chance may be moving up to 175 in a couple of years and hope either ward or kov want to fight him.

what P4P list are you talking about here? most ppl have Canelo on theyrs.

[KingHippo]

Nah, that's a double edged sword. Whenever he wins easily, his opponent is automatically put in the "tomato can" category. If he was able to finish off Jacobs after the KD, he would be labeled a glass chin bum that already lost to Pirog (7 years ago), just like Lemieux.

The beauty of these discussions is that in boxing, you can make a case for virtually any opinion, since none of this is scientific. When you hate a fighter, you can make a case he's doing the wrong thing no matter what action he takes or how he does it. No matter what happened in that fight, people would find a reason to whine. Nothing will change in the Canelo fight. Whether he gets outboxed over 12 or knocks out Canelo in 5 seconds, there will always be a narrative of how Golovkin sucks.

If he beats Canelo convincingly there is no debate. Golovkin is top 3. And Canelo is on the TBRB and Ring P4P list by the way.

Jacobs was universally rated as a B level fighter entering the fight, and Golovkin did not look dominant enough to warrant his ranking. Jacobs was his test, and he barely passed it. And yes, the way Pirog iced him weighs in the balance. There is not much difference between the Jacobs Golovkin faced and the one who faced Pirog. Difference is Pirog was much more unpredictable and hard to hit.

And Lemieux is garbage, you and I know that. Best win is a decision against Hassan Ddam, worst lost is against Joachim ****ing Alcine. Golovkin did nothing Rubio hasn't done before.

[Cutthroat]

One of the weakest resumes I've ever seen from a "p4p" ranked fighter.

I don't even rank Jacobs in the top 100 fighters in boxing yet he was able to go toe to toe with lil g. Ouma is another fighter that gave him all he could handle, I didn't rank him in the top 100 either.

It's an insult when people try to compare his resume to actual P4P fighters like Ward defeating top 10 opponents like Kovalev. It's one thing to struggle against a guy top 10 in all of boxing and another to struggle with a guy not even ranked in the top 100.