Schaffers $50 mill Tournament

[saintpat]

I don't think he has the funding. If he did, the drumbeat would be growing louder and they'd be announcing big names who had signed up ... getting a few big names out there would add legitimacy and entice others to sign up.

[hhs661]

Oscar thought Schaefer was his close friend and he trusted him completely. Schaefer stabbed him in the back. Schaefer is a rat. Sorry but I had to get that out of my system. I don't like that big nerd.

Lol wtf. Well ok

[Scipio2009]

Dude the $50 mill for the first year is to entice big names, not those unknowns you mentioned. Schaefer was first looking at welterweights, then jr middleweights.

You can't just throw money like that at small time fighters who will not sell tickets or get good viewership numbers. It would be a huge loss.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/world-boxing-super-series-to-launch-50-million-boxing-tournament/amp/

Pocketing $10mill is big money, they need big names for that.

I get that, but if the fighters aren't biting, you alter the sites, at least for the first year, and you keep more of the money in your pocket.

In the example, the full tournament is 15 fights (with the first 8 being an amalgam of footage for the tournament, so you're really looking at 7 events). See where the payouts to those fighters usually sit, double the money as a means to eliminate any qualms from the promoters, and you're still basically looking at $5m-$6m for the whole tournament (using 16 fighters instead of the proposed 8).

If season one works, other fighters/camps have a chance to see that the scheme is a viable one, and then there's likely far more interest for participation in the 2nd tournament (though I'd still target a weight class like cruiserweight, where the action isn't as front and center on the top level as things are for heavyweight/welterweight/junior middleweight).

Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia split $4m (before you count any back-end money), and Brook-Spence is an outdoor stadium fight that Matchroom Sport is putting on Box Office, both on the open markets; you're not going to lock down a top-level welterweight tournament for even $10m.

Schaefer's objective may have been what it was, but iyou've got to have an executable model first.

[NEETzsche]

The draft is in June apparently. I expect that it will involve super middleweight again

[daggum]

the tournament was cancelled and schaefer proclaimed himself the winner of the 50 million

[Scipio2009]

I don't mean this as an insult, but you have an active imagination.

I like figuring out ways to make ideas work out the best they can. If Schaefer's aim is to truly have a locked-in tournament between top fighters, you have to convince those fighters that committing to such a thing would make sense.

There's a reason why Schaefer is having such a hard time, finding the camps willing to give up their promotional freedoms to get in on this $10m payout

[OnePunch]

Dude the $50 mill for the first year is to entice big names, not those unknowns you mentioned. Schaefer was first looking at welterweights, then jr middleweights.

You can't just throw money like that at small time fighters who will not sell tickets or get good viewership numbers. It would be a huge loss.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/world-boxing-super-series-to-launch-50-million-boxing-tournament/amp/

Pocketing $10mill is big money, they need big names for that.

Al Haymon disagrees with you.

[-Kev-]

I don't think he has the funding. If he did, the drumbeat would be growing louder and they'd be announcing big names who had signed up ... getting a few big names out there would add legitimacy and entice others to sign up.

It's him and Sauerland and did you read all the people who are backing this tourney financially? The $50 mill isn't a dime from RC's bank account.

[saintpat]

It's him and Sauerland and did you read all the people who are backing this tourney financially? The $50 mill isn't a dime from RC's bank account.

Having a lot of money and being willing to throw it in a black hole with little to no chance of return or profit are two different things.

If this thing is up and running and they have fighters signed and TV in place, why haven't they announced it.

I think it's dead in the water. Time will tell.

[Eff Pandas]

I'd watch, as would a lot of hardcore fans, but bantamweight would give Schaefer's event a real shot at "pitting the best against the best" (which always draws extra eyeballs.

The top 16 bantamweights in the world are (according to BoxRec):

1. Shinsuke Yamanaka
2. Jamie McDonnell
3. Zolani Tete
4. Lee Haskins
5. Anselmo Moreno
6. Omar Andres Narvaez
7. Luis Nery
8. Liborio Solis
9. Juan Carlos Payano
10. Takuma Inoue
11. Zhanat Zhakiyanov
12. Norberto Jimenez
13. Stuart Hall
14. Panthep Mullipoom
15. Mark John Yap
16. Rau'shee Warren

Pair it off NCAA style and you've got Yamanaka-Warren (likely for Tokyo, shown tape delay to the US/UK/EU), McDonnell-Yap (likely for Sheffield), Tete-Mullipoom (likely in the UK on a Warren show), Haskins-Hall (REMATCH!!; should do good business in the UK), Moreno-Jimenez (meh; chance to help launch a young guy with an ugly record), Navarez-Zhakiyamov (some momentum for the guy who beat Warren for the belts; can go pretty much anywhere), Nery-Inoue (likely for Tokyo; shown on tape delay everywhere else), and Solis-Payano (likely in the US).

--Yamanaka-Warren and Nery-Inoue in Tokyo
--Tete-Mullipoom and Haskins-Hall on a Frank Warren show
--McDonnell-Yep under the next big Kell Brook fight on SKY
--Payano-Solis and Zhakiyamov-Navarez on a PBC show
--Moreno-Jimenez on some show

Hope that you end up with good fights (or enough good action spots to piece things together), and then you build from there [in the footage, note that the fights are apart of the WBSS]

Have the winners of the Tokyo doubleheader face each other, have the two winners on Frank's show face each other, pair off the two winners on the PBC show, and then hope that there was enough action to make an event out of the McDonnell-Yep and Moreno-Jimenez fight. Now you've got 4 shows, with fights that should draw well, to feature on the televised product.

Frank/Tokyo and PBC/Sky are your semifinal events, and then you have the finals (with the WBC, WBA, IBF, wba, and IBO 118lb belts on the line).

Give folks a reason to tune in to the smaller guys.

LMFAO.

A+ trolling. Holy f#ck man this is post of the year so far I think.

Sh^t man I bet if you gave some of these cats $1M for the first fight in the tournament half of the winners would f#cking retire on principle.