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  • Fanofreason
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    #1

    Schaffers $50 mill Tournament

    Havent heard anymore on this since March. Is it still happening?
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    I doubt it, I think its a good idea but I doubt many will sign up.

    Boxers have got comfortable with the pick and chose style of match making that is used in boxing, for them to go into a tourney style where they are at the mercy of destiny pretty much I think is not a good option for most. Why would a boxer risk everything for a chance to win 50 million when he can keep the status quo and keep stacking his stacks the proven way he has been doing.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Fanofreason
      Havent heard anymore on this since March. Is it still happening?
      Schaefer apparently has the money; he just doesn't have the fighters just yet.

      In a perfect world, Schaefer would stage a single-elimination tournament with the 16 best bantamweights and call it a day (set the 8 matchups, and put each fight up for bid to see where it gets staged, etc; there are likely some conflicts still, but the money is beyond anything there's to be seen at the weight, so folks will get over that).

      Doubt that t ever ends up happening, tbh

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        #4
        Oscar thought Schaefer was his close friend and he trusted him completely. Schaefer stabbed him in the back. Schaefer is a rat. Sorry but I had to get that out of my system. I don't like that big nerd.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Schaefer apparently has the money; he just doesn't have the fighters just yet.

          In a perfect world, Schaefer would stage a single-elimination tournament with the 16 best bantamweights and call it a day (set the 8 matchups, and put each fight up for bid to see where it gets staged, etc; there are likely some conflicts still, but the money is beyond anything there's to be seen at the weight, so folks will get over that).

          Doubt that t ever ends up happening, tbh
          Bantamweights? Who would watch that?

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          • Scipio2009
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            #6
            Originally posted by Pigeons
            Bantamweights? Who would watch that?
            I'd watch, as would a lot of hardcore fans, but bantamweight would give Schaefer's event a real shot at "pitting the best against the best" (which always draws extra eyeballs.

            The top 16 bantamweights in the world are (according to BoxRec):

            1. Shinsuke Yamanaka
            2. Jamie McDonnell
            3. Zolani Tete
            4. Lee Haskins
            5. Anselmo Moreno
            6. Omar Andres Narvaez
            7. Luis Nery
            8. Liborio Solis
            9. Juan Carlos Payano
            10. Takuma Inoue
            11. Zhanat Zhakiyanov
            12. Norberto Jimenez
            13. Stuart Hall
            14. Panthep Mullipoom
            15. Mark John Yap
            16. Rau'shee Warren

            Pair it off NCAA style and you've got Yamanaka-Warren (likely for Tokyo, shown tape delay to the US/UK/EU), McDonnell-Yap (likely for Sheffield), Tete-Mullipoom (likely in the UK on a Warren show), Haskins-Hall (REMATCH!!; should do good business in the UK), Moreno-Jimenez (meh; chance to help launch a young guy with an ugly record), Navarez-Zhakiyamov (some momentum for the guy who beat Warren for the belts; can go pretty much anywhere), Nery-Inoue (likely for Tokyo; shown on tape delay everywhere else), and Solis-Payano (likely in the US).

            --Yamanaka-Warren and Nery-Inoue in Tokyo
            --Tete-Mullipoom and Haskins-Hall on a Frank Warren show
            --McDonnell-Yep under the next big Kell Brook fight on SKY
            --Payano-Solis and Zhakiyamov-Navarez on a PBC show
            --Moreno-Jimenez on some show

            Hope that you end up with good fights (or enough good action spots to piece things together), and then you build from there [in the footage, note that the fights are apart of the WBSS]

            Have the winners of the Tokyo doubleheader face each other, have the two winners on Frank's show face each other, pair off the two winners on the PBC show, and then hope that there was enough action to make an event out of the McDonnell-Yep and Moreno-Jimenez fight. Now you've got 4 shows, with fights that should draw well, to feature on the televised product.

            Frank/Tokyo and PBC/Sky are your semifinal events, and then you have the finals (with the WBC, WBA, IBF, wba, and IBO 118lb belts on the line).

            Give folks a reason to tune in to the smaller guys.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              I'd watch, as would a lot of hardcore fans, but bantamweight would give Schaefer's event a real shot at "pitting the best against the best" (which always draws extra eyeballs.

              The top 16 bantamweights in the world are (according to BoxRec):

              1. Shinsuke Yamanaka
              2. Jamie McDonnell
              3. Zolani Tete
              4. Lee Haskins
              5. Anselmo Moreno
              6. Omar Andres Narvaez
              7. Luis Nery
              8. Liborio Solis
              9. Juan Carlos Payano
              10. Takuma Inoue
              11. Zhanat Zhakiyanov
              12. Norberto Jimenez
              13. Stuart Hall
              14. Panthep Mullipoom
              15. Mark John Yap
              16. Rau'shee Warren

              Pair it off NCAA style and you've got Yamanaka-Warren (likely for Tokyo, shown tape delay to the US/UK/EU), McDonnell-Yap (likely for Sheffield), Tete-Mullipoom (likely in the UK on a Warren show), Haskins-Hall (REMATCH!!; should do good business in the UK), Moreno-Jimenez (meh; chance to help launch a young guy with an ugly record), Navarez-Zhakiyamov (some momentum for the guy who beat Warren for the belts; can go pretty much anywhere), Nery-Inoue (likely for Tokyo; shown on tape delay everywhere else), and Solis-Payano (likely in the US).

              --Yamanaka-Warren and Nery-Inoue in Tokyo
              --Tete-Mullipoom and Haskins-Hall on a Frank Warren show
              --McDonnell-Yep under the next big Kell Brook fight on SKY
              --Payano-Solis and Zhakiyamov-Navarez on a PBC show
              --Moreno-Jimenez on some show

              Hope that you end up with good fights (or enough good action spots to piece things together), and then you build from there [in the footage, note that the fights are apart of the WBSS]

              Have the winners of the Tokyo doubleheader face each other, have the two winners on Frank's show face each other, pair off the two winners on the PBC show, and then hope that there was enough action to make an event out of the McDonnell-Yep and Moreno-Jimenez fight. Now you've got 4 shows, with fights that should draw well, to feature on the televised product.

              Frank/Tokyo and PBC/Sky are your semifinal events, and then you have the finals (with the WBC, WBA, IBF, wba, and IBO 118lb belts on the line).

              Give folks a reason to tune in to the smaller guys.
              Dude the $50 mill for the first year is to entice big names, not those unknowns you mentioned. Schaefer was first looking at welterweights, then jr middleweights.

              You can't just throw money like that at small time fighters who will not sell tickets or get good viewership numbers. It would be a huge loss.

              Backed by a number of organizations including Team Sauerland, the Swedish digital entertainment Modern Times Group and the Switzerland-based Highlight Event and Entertainment, Comosa AG is offering a total of $50 million in combined prizes for the first year. Schaefer estimated the winner of each single-elimination, eight-fighter bracket could pocket $10 million.
              https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/world-boxing-super-series-to-launch-50-million-boxing-tournament/amp/

              Pocketing $10mill is big money, they need big names for that.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                I'd watch, as would a lot of hardcore fans, but bantamweight would give Schaefer's event a real shot at "pitting the best against the best" (which always draws extra eyeballs.

                The top 16 bantamweights in the world are (according to BoxRec):

                1. Shinsuke Yamanaka
                2. Jamie McDonnell
                3. Zolani Tete
                4. Lee Haskins
                5. Anselmo Moreno
                6. Omar Andres Narvaez
                7. Luis Nery
                8. Liborio Solis
                9. Juan Carlos Payano
                10. Takuma Inoue
                11. Zhanat Zhakiyanov
                12. Norberto Jimenez
                13. Stuart Hall
                14. Panthep Mullipoom
                15. Mark John Yap
                16. Rau'shee Warren

                Pair it off NCAA style and you've got Yamanaka-Warren (likely for Tokyo, shown tape delay to the US/UK/EU), McDonnell-Yap (likely for Sheffield), Tete-Mullipoom (likely in the UK on a Warren show), Haskins-Hall (REMATCH!!; should do good business in the UK), Moreno-Jimenez (meh; chance to help launch a young guy with an ugly record), Navarez-Zhakiyamov (some momentum for the guy who beat Warren for the belts; can go pretty much anywhere), Nery-Inoue (likely for Tokyo; shown on tape delay everywhere else), and Solis-Payano (likely in the US).

                --Yamanaka-Warren and Nery-Inoue in Tokyo
                --Tete-Mullipoom and Haskins-Hall on a Frank Warren show
                --McDonnell-Yep under the next big Kell Brook fight on SKY
                --Payano-Solis and Zhakiyamov-Navarez on a PBC show
                --Moreno-Jimenez on some show

                Hope that you end up with good fights (or enough good action spots to piece things together), and then you build from there [in the footage, note that the fights are apart of the WBSS]

                Have the winners of the Tokyo doubleheader face each other, have the two winners on Frank's show face each other, pair off the two winners on the PBC show, and then hope that there was enough action to make an event out of the McDonnell-Yep and Moreno-Jimenez fight. Now you've got 4 shows, with fights that should draw well, to feature on the televised product.

                Frank/Tokyo and PBC/Sky are your semifinal events, and then you have the finals (with the WBC, WBA, IBF, wba, and IBO 118lb belts on the line).

                Give folks a reason to tune in to the smaller guys.
                I don't mean this as an insult, but you have an active imagination.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by !WAR CHAVEZ!
                  I doubt it, I think its a good idea but I doubt many will sign up.

                  Boxers have got comfortable with the pick and chose style of match making that is used in boxing, for them to go into a tourney style where they are at the mercy of destiny pretty much I think is not a good option for most. Why would a boxer risk everything for a chance to win 50 million when he can keep the status quo and keep stacking his stacks the proven way he has been doing.
                  I Agree, i think the only fighters that would be truly willing to go through with this tourney are fighters who are second and third tier type type fighters who are not fan generating type fighters.

                  The top guys of the sport would never agree to be a part of this because it goes against their pick and choose way of doing.

                  This tourney sounds like a great idea, but if it doesnt involve the very top guys then it will be a flop.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fanofreason
                    Havent heard anymore on this since March. Is it still happening?
                    I believe so. Someone posted a tweet a while ago in the PBC is done at NBC thread indicating NBC was going to air the tourney.

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