Prime Iron Mike versus Joshua or Wilder today

[robertzimmerman]

The rapist that got KO'd by Lewis? Yup that guy.

Mike was finished when he lost to Lennox in 2002.

How is that relevant when looking at a hypothetical fight against Wilder whilst prime?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Mike was finished when he lost to Lennox in 2002.

How is that relevant when looking at a hypothetical fight against Wilder whilst prime?

He was in his prime when he was stopped by Douglas. Stop hyping this guy, just stop.

Tyson`s career is something like Berto`s in ww.

[robertzimmerman]

He was in his prime when he was stopped by Douglas. Stop hyping this guy, just stop.

Tyson`s career is something like Berto`s in ww.

Take your own advice: Just stop.

Stop posting.

You have added nothing to the debate apart from ****ty, irrelevant points.

Yeah, Tyson and Berto's careers were really alike. Good call.


Don't bother replying.

[Pac=Duran]

The rapist that got KO'd by Lewis? Yup that guy.

Lewis the top 3 heavy ever? Lewis whipped washed up Mike, and would have probably beat him in hos prime. How it that a point? Lewis is one of the greatest ever.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Take your own advice: Just stop.

Stop posting.

You have added nothing to the debate apart from ****ty, irrelevant points.

Yeah, Tyson and Berto's careers were really alike. Good call.


Don't bother replying.

Stop being emotional, what is the best win of prime Tyson? 100 years old Holmes. So?

He was just a bum killer, something like Wilder at this moment.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

Lewis the top 3 heavy ever? Lewis whipped washed up Mike, and would have probably beat him in hos prime. How it that a point? Lewis is one of the greatest ever.

How about Douglas? Was that Tysons prime???. That's two losses to two Heavyweights considerably bigger than him, BOTH gauged the distance well, popped his head back with the JAB (where was that mythical bob & weave ****???) & ended him with their right hands......

[Death_Adder]

Prime Tyson would've smoked both of them, same night probably.

Actually he would only smoke AJ, Bumsquad would've ducked him.

[robertzimmerman]

How about Douglas? Was that Tysons prime???. That's two losses to two Heavyweights considerably bigger than him, BOTH gauged the distance well, popped his head back with the JAB (where was that mythical bob & weave ****???) & ended him with their right hands......

Mike was underprepared for Douglas, but Douglas deserves an enormous amount of credit. Douglas was a good fighter on his day. But like many HW's of the 80's, he underachieved. He'd definitely be a top 10 HW today.

No knowledgeable fan gives Lennox a lot of credit for beating Mike in 2002.

What do you mean a mythical bob and weave style? It wasn't mythical. He used it to great effect.

Yes, in losing to Douglas and Lennox, he lost to 2 guys who were considerably bigger than him. But he also has lots of wins against guys who were considerably bigger than him.

Back on topic, Lennox was on another planet to Wilder, and Douglas had more ability.

Mike at his best would have taken Wilder out.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

Mike was underprepared for Douglas, but Douglas deserves an enormous amount of credit. Douglas was a good fighter on his day. But like many HW's of the 80's, he underachieved. He'd definitely be a top 10 HW today.

No knowledgeable fan gives Lennox a lot of credit for beating Mike in 2002.

What do you mean a mythical bob and weave style? It wasn't mythical. He used it to great effect.

Yes, in losing to Douglas and Lennox, he lost to 2 guys who were considerably bigger than him. But he also has lots of wins against guys who were considerably bigger than him.

Back on topic, Lennox was on another planet to Wilder, and Douglas had more ability.

Mike at his best would have taken Wilder out.

Regarding his bob & weave, it was effective when used against an opponent who had no idea of timing. Look at the Douglas fight. Bobs & weaves and it is constantly negated by a jab or right hand. Good skill yes but it was & can still be nullified.

I acknowledge he beat Biggs who was a big man with the amateur pedigree to match. However the rest of the taller Boxers on his resume were not as competent as the big men we see today.

Regarding Wilder we'll see. It seems like a lot of people on here aren't sold on him. For me I see a big man who knows his distance & tries to work of a jab until he can land his famous right hand. I see a super athletic human being.
However you win regarding Wilder because Tyson at the end of the day was an undisputed champion. It would be nice of you to acknowledge that it's much tougher to be a undisputed champion's due to the skillset coupled with size in this era.

[Enayze]

Tyson smokes both, with relative ease I might add.