Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua-Fury Maybe in April, Klitschko II Possible For Fall

[Nightfall]

The fight will be corny because fury will come in there playing around like a kid

[asgarth]

Still waiting for you to refute any thing I said. Lets talk about the facts, number one : Wladimir is 41 years old, chinny and was inactive for just about the longest period as a pro ( nearly 2 plus years ). Most professionals in the industry considered him way past his best when Fluffy barely beat him. At this point hes just a good name on Joshuas resume and thats it...so add Klitch's name to a Dominc Breazele, Erik Molina ( Deontay leftover ) 'The Prince ' Charles Martin ( worst HW champion perphaps ever ) and Dyllan Whyte -- I dont see how you can knock Deontay's resume but give full credit to Joshua ; when really he has Tyson Fury to thank for where hes at at the moment by vacating his titles.

These guys need to face the #1. HW in the world ( Deontay Wilder ), that has not cheated his way to the top or been given privilege by having a bum champion in Charles Martin delviver a title to his doorstep and then fighting in a false 'unification' against a inactive veteran who never even won the WBA in the first place....Joshua is a lucky man.

Well Wilder defended his title already 5 times. Joshua three times. I wont even get into the fact that Wilders debut was in 2008 and joshuas debut in 2013. Depending on the month Wilder had a 4-5 year headstart.

But just looking at the title fights.
Wilder fought against: Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupas, Szpillka, Arreola and Washington

Joshua fought against: Martin, Breazeale, Molina and Klitschko.

Even if Klitschko was old, he would smash everyone on Wilders resume.
Joshua has done in a one year title reign more than Wilder did in his 2 years. There is a high possibility that Joshua will face Parker, Fury and Klitscko in the next 2 years.

Wilder has to somehow face Stiverne in the near future and will probably defend against guys like breazeale, hammer or takam next.

[juggernaut666]

Well Wilder defended his title already 5 times. Joshua three times. I wont even get into the fact that Wilders debut was in 2008 and joshuas debut in 2013. Depending on the month Wilder had a 4-5 year headstart.

But just looking at the title fights.
Wilder fought against: Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupas, Szpillka, Arreola and Washington

Joshua fought against: Martin, Breazeale, Molina and Klitschko.

Even if Klitschko was old, he would smash everyone on Wilders resume.
Joshua has done in a one year title reign more than Wilder did in his 2 years. There is a high possibility that Joshua will face Parker, Fury and Klitscko in the next 2 years.

Wilder has to somehow face Stiverne in the near future and will probably defend against guys like breazeale, hammer or takam next.

HAMMER? Imagine that

Some actually have that guy in their top ten list just bc he lucked out against a rusrty Price !

[1hourRun]

Well Wilder defended his title already 5 times. Joshua three times. I wont even get into the fact that Wilders debut was in 2008 and joshuas debut in 2013. Depending on the month Wilder had a 4-5 year headstart.

But just looking at the title fights.
Wilder fought against: Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupas, Szpillka, Arreola and Washington

Joshua fought against: Martin, Breazeale, Molina and Klitschko.

Even if Klitschko was old, he would smash everyone on Wilders resume.
Joshua has done in a one year title reign more than Wilder did in his 2 years. There is a high possibility that Joshua will face Parker, Fury and Klitscko in the next 2 years.

Wilder has to somehow face Stiverne in the near future and will probably defend against guys like breazeale, hammer or takam next.

Anthony Joshua resume is a product of Tyson Fury and the gullible Britts. No way he would be lined up for Charles Martin, Klitshcko and the rest of the names you mentioned

: If Deontay had all these breaks that Joshua had he be undisputed but unfortunately Czar Glazkov when he was top five decided to fight the weak Charles Martin ; Tyson Fury was offered a shot at Wilders WBC but he went for the bigger fight in Klitschko , Joshua was coming up to a mando for Wilders WBC title he did the same, curbed ( Eddie Hearn on record ) that work and lucked up with Charles Martin...then we can talk about Pedvetkin, Hughie Fury and PED scandals -- nah better yet lets not go into that.

[Poppo168]

Wilder is just waiting to sell his chin to the HW champ of the world Joshua.

Then he'll drift off into obscurity where he's spent most of his career.

[Butch.McRae]

Wilder is just waiting to sell his chin to the HW champ of the world Joshua.

Then he'll drift off into obscurity where he's spent most of his career.

This is exactly what he's doing. Wilder is entertaining but he can barely stay on his feet even when he's landing punches. He's just a plain bad fighter.

And anybody trying to justify his resume is mentally ill. Really terrible opponents.

He's looking to get his pay day and that'll be it. He could get a belt again if Joshua vacates one but he's not beating that guy.

[asgarth]

Anthony Joshua resume is a product of Tyson Fury and the gullible Britts. No way he would be lined up for Charles Martin, Klitshcko and the rest of the names you mentioned

: If Deontay had all these breaks that Joshua had he be undisputed but unfortunately Czar Glazkov when he was top five decided to fight the weak Charles Martin ; Tyson Fury was offered a shot at Wilders WBC but he went for the bigger fight in Klitschko , Joshua was coming up to a mando for Wilders WBC title he did the same, curbed ( Eddie Hearn on record ) that work and lucked up with Charles Martin...then we can talk about Pedvetkin, Hughie Fury and PED scandals -- nah better yet lets not go into that.

Yeah Joshua got really lucky with Fury vacating the belt and fighting against ****ing Charles Martin for the title. But still no excuse for Wilder to have such a weak resume after all this time.

I dont know all the details, one guy was a replacement for Povetkin testing positive, I think it was Arreola. That wasnt his fault.
Then after his injury he wanted to fight a random polish guy first, but luckily he tested positive and Wilder fought against Washington, who is no worldbeater by himself, but at least better than the polish guy.

Molina was a gimme first defense, no big deal. Many boxers are going for an easy first defense.
But what was the reasoning for Duhaupas and Szpillka?

I just want to see him against better opposition. I rate him, but after 5 defenses I would like to see him against a top5 guy.

Give me Klitschko, Parker, Pulev, Joshua, Ortiz and I wont complain.

[Fabes88]

I made that chinny argument? I think it was common knowledge among boxing fans...well its incredible what bias fans will go through to validate a poor win ; in your case you went full ****** altering Wladimir glass jaw to revise history.

He was known to be chinny earlier on but please he hadn't touched the canvas in 12 years despite being in with the likes of haye, povetkin and pulev. 12 years is a long time not not be knocked down especially for a "chinny fighter" so let's not act like his jaw was made of paper mache.

If this is a poor win what does that make wilders career then if he's had almost twice as many fights as aj and has never been in with anyone that can even be mentioned in the same sentence as wk. I'm unsure if you're trolling or genuinely this ridiculous

[Eff Pandas]

I kinda wish Klitschko would just call it a career cuz its so much better a way to end his career on this recent performance & history suggests the rematch will go far less his way than the first fight did. But with his performance (& more importantly the rematch clause) you can't deny the guy a rematch if he wants one.

And Fury makes sense next from there, but I'm betting Joshua will have to drop or will get stripped of some title in between the next 12 months so that'll just make me quadruple down on my f#ck belts agenda so that's good to.

The f#cked up thing in all this schedule is its pushing out Joshua vs Wilder for 18ish months from now & they are probably the top 2 guys in this division & I'm honestly not of much confidence that Wilder will even be a title holder still by that point as I think he's an extremely beatable guy with his risky style. So this potential huge fight for the division is very likely to get devalued. Although I will say if both guys keep winning & growing resume-wise & skill-wise this could be all the more bigger fight in late 2018 so there's that & ultimately in the scheme of things for two younger-ish guys its probably not a bad thing to actually "marinate" this fight a lil bit despite me being almost 100% anti-marination typically.

Also Luis Ortiz is really likely to be left holding his **** here. Joshua vs Ortiz isn't possible til 2019 on this potential schedule & with Wilder looking to unify with Parker next Ortiz vs Wilder isn't likely to happen til the first quarter 2018 so basically a year from now...at best.

[Butch.McRae]

I kinda wish Klitschko would just call it a career cuz its so much better a way to end his career on this recent performance & history suggests the rematch will go far less his way than the first fight did. But with his performance (& more importantly the rematch clause) you can't deny the guy a rematch if he wants one.

And Fury makes sense next from there, but I'm betting Joshua will have to drop or will get stripped of some title in between the next 12 months so that'll just make me quadruple down on my f#ck belts agenda so that's good to.

The f#cked up thing in all this schedule is its pushing out Joshua vs Wilder for 18ish months from now & they are probably the top 2 guys in this division & I'm honestly not of much confidence that Wilder will even be a title holder still by that point as I think he's an extremely beatable guy with his risky style. So this potential huge fight for the division is very likely to get devalued. Although I will say if both guys keep winning & growing resume-wise & skill-wise this could be all the more bigger fight in late 2018 so there's that & ultimately in the scheme of things for two younger-ish guys its probably not a bad thing to actually "marinate" this fight a lil bit despite me being almost 100% anti-marination typically.

Also Luis Ortiz is really likely to be left holding his **** here. Joshua vs Ortiz isn't possible til 2019 on this potential schedule & with Wilder looking to unify with Parker next Ortiz vs Wilder isn't likely to happen til the first quarter 2018 so basically a year from now...at best.

I think you've got it right here. Wilder needs to build his rep at home to make that Joahua fight a US affair with 1 or 2 live bodies (if he's lucky Parker we'll be one of them but I doubt it). What would really make him huge is a win against Ortiz in NYC (maybe when pigs fly?).

Unfortunately, I think Ortiz will have to wait this whole thing out. But just maybe Al and Lou want Wilder - Ortiz. They've yet to cash in on their Wilder investment. Maybe they use Ortiz to do that?