Comments Thread For: Joshua-Klitschko Live Broadcast Drew 659K Viewers for Showtime

[Motorcity Cobra]

6% difference in subscribers. No matter how many different ways you try to frame it doesn't change that fact. If you have ESPN2 part of your cable package you almost certainly have FS1. When PBC puts out crap ratings it's not because people don't have FS1. Its because they dont want to watch PBCs fights. FS1 is in 83m homes, ESPN2 is in 89m homes.

And ESPN2 is in as many homes as ESPN so those Golden Boy ratings should be closer to PBC on ESPN not closer to, and getting worse ratings than PBC on FS1

[-Kev-]

Keith Idec @Idecboxing

Official Nielsen numbers not available till tomorrow. But word is HBO's Anthonyfjoshua-@Klitschko replay did more than 800K viewers (more)

Fury/Klitschko replay did 676K. HBO replay more then showtime live and more then the replay of fury fight replay and more then GGG/Brook replay which did 593K. If HBO really did a 800K for a replay that is impressive.

HBO has more subs though. HBO has Game of Thrones, Silicon Valley, West World, Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Real Sports with BG, Real Time with Bill Maher and all that.

Showtime has some pretty good shows too but their lineup is not as deep as HBO's.

[Butch.McRae]

I have both. In fact, I have every channel my cable company offers. I would have both even if I wasn't a Boxing fan, for movies, etc.. Always have.

But do you think you're the norm? Having every channel is pricey lol

[A.K]

I was one but i was streaming the sky show the whole card, this **** did real good worldwide.

[bigdunny1]

Fury/Klitschko Live - 1.038m
Fury/Klitschko replay - 676K

Joshua/Klitschko Live - 659K - Showtime
Joshua/Klitschko replay - over 800K - HBO

659K is not good especially for a fight that is much bigger then the Fury fight. HBO's replay compared to Fury fight went UP. Yet the live ratings going from HBO to Showtime fell off drastically. And the numbers don't match the subscribers difference between HBO and Showtime which is only 17%.

[bigdunny1]

And ESPN2 is in as many homes as ESPN so those Golden Boy ratings should be closer to PBC on ESPN not closer to, and getting worse ratings than PBC on FS1

Different level fights and you know it but even going by that the last PBC on ESPN (NOT ESPN2 did like 300k viewers) While Golden Boy drew what 250K with Prospect level fighters on ESPN2 at a fraction of the cost PBC wasted down the drain paying 1m purses where Golden Boy fighters making like 75K total for the entire card. A better comparison would be HBO Championship fights and Boxing After Dark or HBO Latino fights. Or Showtime Championship vs ShoBox fights. PBC problems in generating ratings is not because audiences don't have those channels and damn sure not because they didn't spend money to promote it. Losing almost half a billion proves they spent money to get the word out. LMAO

[Motorcity Cobra]

Different level fights and you know it but even going by that the last PBC on ESPN (NOT ESPN2 did like 300k viewers) While Golden Boy drew what 250K with Prospect level fighters on ESPN2 at a fraction of the cost PBC wasted down the drain paying 1m purses where Golden Boy fighters making like 75K total for the entire card. A better comparison would be HBO Championship fights and Boxing After Dark or HBO Latino fights. Or Showtime Championship vs ShoBox fights. PBC problems in generating ratings is not because audiences don't have those channels and damn sure not because they didn't spend money to promote it. Losing almost half a billion proves they spent money to get the word out. LMAO

You keep bringing up that last card and you know that was a throw away card with hardly no promotion and no names. I don't even remember who fought. Golden Boy hyped their first card and it still didn't beat that last PBC card and their ratings are getting worse each show.

[bigdunny1]

You keep bringing up that last card and you know that was a throw away card with hardly no promotion and no names. I don't even remember who fought. Golden Boy hyped their first card and it still didn't beat that last PBC card and their ratings are getting worse each show.

Golden Boy hyped their card on ESPN2? Really because I didn't see any million dollar TV ads. They didn't spend millions for a huge light up traveling scoreboard. And it's always a throw away card or not enough subscribers on that network when the PBC ratings suck. Golden Boy didn't spend a dime promoting those fights. PBC spent ten of millions just to buy the air time. Spent tens of millions on advertisements and spent millions in purses. And got nothing to show for it. Golden Boy is Friday Night fight type cheap fights for prospects. Only hype from Golden Boy came from them sending out tweets telling fans to watch. lol Again comparable to HBO not spending much money and resources for Boxing After dark and HBO Latino fights. PBC spent millions on time buys for throw away cards?

[bigdunny1]

Rick Glaser posted this today

George, stop with Haymon, he and the PBC are getting sued already, or are in the process of getting sued by creditors, fighters, TV networks, and investors. The PBC thing is coming to the end, they already lost ESPN, NBC, NBCSN, and Spike. At the end of this year, they are out at Fox, and FS1, but may not be able to complete the year as they very well may run out of funds before then. Haymon has Showtime, but Eddie Hearn has now made deep inroads there with Anthony Joshua's big victory Saturday on Showtime, plus if Brook beats Spence, he'll have another Showtime guy. The Showtime shows are not PBC shows, Espinoza has made that very clear. Haymon also has one or two CBS shows a year, plus Bounce TV, which has very few viewing homes.

[HarvardBlue]

It's always funny seeing boxing fans talk about ratings like they're television execs. I watch both broadcasts. HBO even had different camera angles which was cool. The HBO commentators was quick to call the stoppage premature which you understand because their guy lost.