klitschko vs toney in the works..

[Leo Pradun]

what fight were you watching? toney was never hurt in that fight.

the right hand rahman conected on toney in the 1st round hurt toney...

[oldgringo]

the right hand rahman conected on toney in the 1st round hurt toney...

oh so lampley hurt then...

[Bozo_no no]

Why is anyone listening to Cookie Monster?

He will kill you you know.

[TheEvilSaint]

this will be toney's 3rd HW title shot in 2 years (depending when the fight happens, or if it happens). after a no contest and a close draw, i dont think that toney should get another title shot so quickly.

having said that, this is a really bad matchup for toney, IMO. wlads jab and right hand, his size and reach will be far too much for the short (and fat) toney. wlad is 6'6" and toney is 5'9", thats a good 9 inch height disadvantage for toney. and as rahman has proved, if toney isnt close enough to land his vaunted counter right hand, he cant do much. wlad's jab is vastly more effective than rahmans (and more consistent), so is his right hand. and if rahman used his jab more often, he wouldve beaten toney.

toney's only chance is to counter wlad in close, but wlad will clinch like he did with peter, and probly lean on toney like he did with brewster, leaving toney off balance, winded, and most likely unable to effectivly fight wlad.

i dont see any way toney can win this fight, especially when toney just cant get into shape.

wlad by TKO.

[mECHsLAVE]

1st point- Toney never looked hurt to me against Rahman, but that doesn't mean Wlad won't hurt him.

Toney has a good chin to go with good roll and head movement, so it's hard to hit him clean and flush or with a blind shot. Wlad would beat Toney handily. Wlad is good at holding on and covering up when the fight range gets uncomfortable for him, so fighting in close won't work for Toney. Wlad will be able to step back in long strides and jab/hook if Toney tries to bull in. Wlad's jab wins this fight similar to how it's won many others. It's probably the best weapon in boxing right now.

2nd point- This fight will not happen. I said it in the other thread that I don't believe Toney will take it. It could only happen if they give Toney some insane money that would make it be worth the risk (near certainty) of losing his shot at the WBC title next (against a much easier opponent for him, where he would have a chance to win and then make $$ defending...).

[BrooklynBomber]

I think that there is a good chance that this fight will end in a knock out.

[Derranged]

hes probably the best in the division, but he didnt show it again wlad, he just stood there and took big shots like an idiot.

Thats for sure, I dont know what Byrd thought he was gonna accomplish. As for this site thats mentions its in the works, does anyone have a link??

[K-DOGG]

1st point- Toney never looked hurt to me against Rahman, but that doesn't mean Wlad won't hurt him.

Toney has a good chin to go with good roll and head movement, so it's hard to hit him clean and flush or with a blind shot. Wlad would beat Toney handily. Wlad is good at holding on and covering up when the fight range gets uncomfortable for him, so fighting in close won't work for Toney. Wlad will be able to step back in long strides and jab/hook if Toney tries to bull in. Wlad's jab wins this fight similar to how it's won many others. It's probably the best weapon in boxing right now.

2nd point- This fight will not happen. I said it in the other thread that I don't believe Toney will take it. It could only happen if they give Toney some insane money that would make it be worth the risk (near certainty) of losing his shot at the WBC title next (against a much easier opponent for him, where he would have a chance to win and then make $$ defending...).

Agreed. Toney may be fat; but he ain't ******.

[antihero]

Klit will beat Toney and probably inside the distance. That's if Toney takes the fight.

[Derranged]

Toney will make Wlad come to him. This won't be like the Byrd fight where Byrd was a 'knucklehead' moving forward all the time while doing nothing, but trying to slap Wlad's punches.

Toney's excellent defense + intelligence + good chin + great trainer, Wlad is in danger.

He doesnt have to be too close to hit TOney. great trainer + intelligence + great power + strength + speed + condition + size + talent = Toney gets whooped. How is Toney is gonna land anything significant??? Even when Byrd WASNT a knucklehead against Wlad in the first fight, he still lost big.