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  • LacedUp
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    #51
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    I think it is you that didn't see it because you always bring up things that didn't actually happen in regards to that fight. Which is strange because you bring it up a ton.

    Szpilka moved played defense and made Wilder look iffy while not doing much of anything on his own before getting his head taken off with a short right hand.

    You said I didn't see a fight I clearly saw so you attacked first dude, don't start **** if you can't take **** back~
    As i said, someone didn't watch the fight.

    Has nothing to do with "attacking first".

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #52
      I see this one as; if Wilder plants a clean right hand, AJ is done. If he misses and AJ can make him pay for it, Wilder is out of there. I don't see it going past 3.

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      • Cutthroat
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        #53
        Originally posted by TheCell8
        It's not just as simple as having a big punch.

        Corey Sanders was a terrible stylistic matchup for him. A lefty with speed, who could duck under his punches. Purrity and Brewster were fights where he basically gassed out after beating up on them. Against Peter a couple of those knockdowns were from behind the head shots.

        Other than Sanders fight, the other fights where he got rocked he was able to recover and go on to win them convincingly.

        Stiverne has to be the slowest fighter in the HW division. Plus he's a lot shorter and doesn't have great stamina. So Wlad would likely just jab and grab him, put his weight on him wear him down and either KO him like Ray Austin or win a very wide decision.

        Stiverne really isn't good and he dodged a career ending beating at the hands of Povetkin.
        Stiverne is the same height as Peter at 6'2 and has 3" in reach on him at 80". You talk about how bad Stiverne is but Sanders was a journeyman, Brewster was a journeyman, Purrity etc.

        Peter got badly and I mean badly schooled by James Toney, so how much better can he really be than Stiverne?

        He only rematched Brewster once he was past it, didn't give rematches to Sanders or Purrity. He rematched Peter after Peter was schooled by JT, dropped 3x by McCline and rocked by Maskaev.

        Wach is the slowest fighter I've ever seen and he was able to rock Wlad. He's not exactly a dangerous puncher with just a 50% ko ratio. He looks like he's literally fighting in slow motion.

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        • Jubei
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          #54
          AJ cant possibly lose to Wilder. Wilder has no skills, just power but he cant deliver the power vs a top fighter. His resume is the worst and most embarrasing of a longer reigning Heavyweight champion ever.

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          • satiev1
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            #55
            Wilder struggled with duhapaus lmao. Joshua kos wilder.

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            • TheCell8
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              #56
              Originally posted by Cutthroat
              Stiverne is the same height as Peter at 6'2 and has 3" in reach on him at 80". You talk about how bad Stiverne is but Sanders was a journeyman, Brewster was a journeyman, Purrity etc.

              Peter got badly and I mean badly schooled by James Toney, so how much better can he really be than Stiverne?

              He only rematched Brewster once he was past it, didn't give rematches to Sanders or Purrity. He rematched Peter after Peter was schooled by JT, dropped 3x by McCline and rocked by Maskaev.

              Wach is the slowest fighter I've ever seen and he was able to rock Wlad. He's not exactly a dangerous puncher with just a 50% ko ratio. He looks like he's literally fighting in slow motion.
              Stiverne is terrible dude... Not saying Klitschko only beat great fighters, cause the majority of his wins were against poor fighters.

              But Stiverne really isn't good and would likely be one of his easiest fights... Stiverne's biggest win is??? Ray Austin? Arreola? Gimme a break!

              Wach and Stiverne are both slow, but Wach's size was what gave Wlad more problems.

              Stiverne isn't even fighting anymore and when he does he apparently struggles with guys like Derrick Rossy.

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              • Cutthroat
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                #57
                Originally posted by TheCell8
                Stiverne is terrible dude... Not saying Klitschko only beat great fighters, cause the majority of his wins were against poor fighters.

                But Stiverne really isn't good and would likely be one of his easiest fights... Stiverne's biggest win is??? Ray Austin? Arreola? Gimme a break!

                Wach and Stiverne are both slow, but Wach's size was what gave Wlad more problems.

                Stiverne isn't even fighting anymore and when he does he apparently struggles with guys like Derrick Rossy.

                Arreola is a top 3 win in Vitali's comeback and Stiverne blasted him out 2x. Stiverne may not that great but neither were any of Wlad's opponents. We can't just forget Wlad lost to journeymen or guys like Peter that lost to this guy:



                Stiverne was scheduled to fight Povetkin but Povetkin failed his drug test just like when Wilder was going to fight him.

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                • BrometheusBob.
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                  #58
                  Wilder needs a KO to win, which is possible. But I haven't seen enough from him to suggest that he'd box well against AJ.

                  He didn't even box well against Washington.

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                  • jaded
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Cutthroat
                    Stiverne is the same height as Peter at 6'2 and has 3" in reach on him at 80". You talk about how bad Stiverne is but Sanders was a journeyman, Brewster was a journeyman, Purrity etc.

                    Peter got badly and I mean badly schooled by James Toney, so how much better can he really be than Stiverne?

                    He only rematched Brewster once he was past it, didn't give rematches to Sanders or Purrity. He rematched Peter after Peter was schooled by JT, dropped 3x by McCline and rocked by Maskaev.

                    Wach is the slowest fighter I've ever seen and he was able to rock Wlad. He's not exactly a dangerous puncher with just a 50% ko ratio. He looks like he's literally fighting in slow motion.

                    Peter won a split decision over Tony and a unanimous decision in the rematch and made Toney look bad. Peter is 6'.

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                    • Aztekkas
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                      #60
                      A slick statistic dances around the ring = sweet science doe.

                      No skills but raw power = he gotz powrr no one could beats my mans.

                      Sigh... anyway, Joshua lands a counter uppercut on Wilder and decapitates him. The fight could go either way and regardless of the outcome, Boxing wins at the end of the day. Both guys are cool in my book.

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