How Come Golovkin HIMSELF never wanted Ward? Verbally speaking

[Lester Tutor]

It's not your promoter or coach say in the media or wanting a Froch or Chavez Jr. at 168...

I think Golovkin never saw himself as p4p, he was just rolling with the industry vibe. When industry asked Golovkin if he would be interested in fighting Ward, did he ever said he really wanted it? Or "it'd be interesting for fans..." it's not what the fans want, it's what YOU want or need to do instead of milking some marketing theory about all the belts that came back to bite hard...

How come Lomachenko or Mayweather had no problem wanting names above their division to prove p4p status?

This is a real thing. Why wasn't it addressed? Why would a beast milk a division knowing nobody wants to fight him, (supposedly), since industry would tell or ask Gennady to his face that nobody wanted to fight him. Why would a 160 beast acknowledge that? As Arum said, if Gennady wants the bigger fights he had to move up. How come industry never challenged Abel, his trainer, why they wanted 164 for Ward?

[Cheek busting]

Same reason why no other boxer "wants" a high risk/low reward fight. It's not something unique to GGG.

Ward, until he had no more options left, only then fought Kovalev.

GGG and his team put forth an offer that was more than fair, and Ward rejected it: 50/50 on everything - weight, purse, etc.

Why would GGG fight out of his natural weight class for a purse he could make fighting a fellow champion, or top-10 contender in his own weight class, 160?

The only time a fighter willingly goes up a weight class, or dries himself out more than usual for a fight, is if that fight is financially lucrative.

This isn't something unique to GGG - all boxers do it.

If Roc Nation guaranteed GGG 8 million or something like that, I guarantee GGG would've taken the Ward fight at 168 in a heartbeat.

But why fight Ward for 2-3 million, when he could make that, or more, fighting in his own weight class?

[Cheek busting]

Floyd never willingly moved up to fight somebody "for pride." He moved up when there was either no more options left, he could no longer comfortably make the weight, or there was a financially lucrative fight.

That's like asking "why did Floyd stay at 147 to fight Maidana, Guerrero, and Berto," when he could have moved up to 154 to fight Lara, or Andrade?

Why would he take on the much riskier fight for THE SAME, or LESS money?

Only time Floyd moved up to 154 was to fight ODLH, Cotto, and Canelo. And at the time, those fights were MUCH MORE financially lucrative than other options Floyd had at his own weight class.

Hell, Floyd wouldn't even fight Canelo at the full-weight of 154! And he only fought him, and took the risk, again, because THE MONEY!!! Off-topic, but I still find it hilarious how Floyd said "I want to make sure my opponent is at his healthiest! We don't drain people! We don't do catch-weights"! *Proceeds to fight Canelo at 152* SELF-PWANGE. That self-awareness, brah! She'll get ya; she'll get ya every time!

[Cheek busting]

This obsession you have with GGG ain't healthy, brah.

It's springtime outside - go out and see the world, and enjoy it! Even try talking to girls - it's fun..

Oh, and /THREAD

[Lester Tutor]

Same reason why no other boxer "wants" a high risk/low reward fight. It's not something unique to GGG.

Ward, until he had no more options left, only then fought Kovalev.

GGG and his team put forth an offer that was more than fair, and Ward rejected it: 50/50 on everything - weight, purse, etc.

Why would GGG fight out of his natural weight class for a purse he could make fighting a fellow champion, or top-10 contender in his own weight class, 160?

The only time a fighter willingly goes up a weight class, or dries himself out more than usual for a fight, is if that fight is financially lucrative.

This isn't something unique to GGG - all boxers do it.

If Roc Nation guaranteed GGG 8 million or something like that, I guarantee GGG would've taken the Ward fight at 168 in a heartbeat.

But why fight Ward for 2-3 million, when he could make that, or more, fighting in his own weight class?

So in theory what would be the splits or demands be by loeffler in fighting Froch or Chavez Jr.?

Ward verbally said he's not calling out the little man. Did Golovkin ever think he could beat Ward? Why the differential with 168 or 164 from the names mentioned.

[The Hammer]

Why did Floyd Mayweather never want to fight Felix Trinidad and Vernon Forrest?

Similar situation to Ward and Golovkin.

[Lester Tutor]

This obsession you have with GGG ain't healthy, brah.

It's springtime outside - go out and see the world, and enjoy it! Even try talking to girls - it's fun..

Oh, and /THREAD

It's all part of the game. Just like Fat Dan trolling Broner in media. Don't get soft. Only little boys call out "obsession" when their poster boys don't like forum stand up comedy. The rhetoric is fun innit

[Cheek busting]

So in theory what would be the splits or demands be by loeffler in fighting Froch or Chavez Jr.?

Ward verbally said he's not calling out the little man. Did Golovkin ever think he could beat Ward? Why the differential with 168 or 164 from the names mentioned.

No - those fights are not as risky, AND they are MUCH MORE financially lucrative.

Why did Floyd fight Canelo at 152 but Cotto at 154?

Why did Pac fight Cotto at 145 but Clottey at 147?

That self-awareness! She'll get ya every time, breh!

This PWN was brought to you by ESAU (the evil edomite), on behalf of the FINE YOUNG CAPITALISTS. That's all!! THANKS, though!

[Robbie Barrett]

Same reason why no other boxer "wants" a high risk/low reward fight. It's not something unique to GGG.

Ward, until he had no more options left, only then fought Kovalev.

GGG and his team put forth an offer that was more than fair, and Ward rejected it: 50/50 on everything - weight, purse, etc.

Why would GGG fight out of his natural weight class for a purse he could make fighting a fellow champion, or top-10 contender in his own weight class, 160?

The only time a fighter willingly goes up a weight class, or dries himself out more than usual for a fight, is if that fight is financially lucrative.

This isn't something unique to GGG - all boxers do it.

If Roc Nation guaranteed GGG 8 million or something like that, I guarantee GGG would've taken the Ward fight at 168 in a heartbeat.

But why fight Ward for 2-3 million, when he could make that, or more, fighting in his own weight class?

What a moron. Ward may not be a massive name but it would have easily been Golovkins biggest fight. Ward is a bigger name than Jacobs and it would have shot him to the top of everyone's P4P lists. Being the universally recognised P4P #1 would have done a lot for Golovkin marketability. Golovkin knew it was a fight he'd lose and that's why he didn't take it.

[Lester Tutor]

Why did Floyd Mayweather never want to fight Felix Trinidad and Vernon Forrest?

Similar situation to Ward and Golovkin.

What division was Floyd first casted as p4p #1? Did Floyd stay at one division? Or do such champs of this era get the benefit of the doubt of at least moving up once?