Massive inconsistency in Ring magazines top heavy list.

[chaconfan]

I would like to point out the double standard and seemingly obvious bias that the article in the current Ring magazine shows regarding Holyfield.
He is listed below people like Marciano and Frazier despite accomplishing MUCH more. Did anyone notice the massive hypocrisy in the criteria for being marked down in this list?
Apparently the writer thinks that Holyfield didn't punch as hard as Marciano or Dempsey, and he goes on to state that to be able to fight you need a punch. Yet Ali who is the lightest puncher on the list, is NO1! Does this mean that Mayweather jnr, Sugar Ray Leonard, Willie Pep and Pernell Whittaker are not as good as guys in their weight classes who could punch harder? Holyfield dropped Bowe with one punch, Dempsey swarmed, and Marciano clubbed old men. The list is b.s.

[chaconfan]

Also. The list is B.S. Holyfield wipes the floor with some of the others who are ranked above him.
Listen, the fact is Marciano was only unbeaten because he fought guys with up to 57 losses. The four all time greats he beat were either old, or from smaller weights, or both. Holyfield was a natural light heavy of 12 1/2st yet stood and traded with giants like Lewis, Bowe, Foreman, and the guy everyone was terrified of Tyson. Hopkins always looked for a way to win by DQ and often writhed on the floor in agony from what replays showed to be nothing, whilst Holyfield wanted to carry on fighting even after having part of his ear bitten off. He not only did not make a fuss when robbed of Olympic glory, he did not make a fuss when robbed of becoming the only 5 time heavyweight champ in history...and also the oldest man to win the HW title in history, when robbed against Valuev. He was also docked a point against Ruiz, for a low blow that replays CLEARLY showed should have been scored as a clean knockdown. So instead of getting a 10-8 win, he gets a 10 -8 loss....but to add insult to injury, Ruiz then lands a low blow on purpose AND DOES NOT GET DOCKED. Add this to the Valuev robbery and he would have been a six time heavyweight champ.

[chaconfan]

Other former, future or current champs Holyfield beat...
Parkey
DeLeon
Qawi x 2
Douglas
Dokes
Thomas
Holmes
Foreman
Tyson x 2
Ruiz
Moorer
Bowe
Czyz
Mercer
Ocasio
Rahman
Botha WBF title
Valuev should also be on this list
and if Oquendo beats Briggs, then he can be added too.
Whilst some are cruiserweights, they were as big as Marciano, Dempsey, Louis and others plus Ocasio fought for the heavyweight title and Deleon fought as a heavy in some bouts.
Add to this list a guy who was 24-0 all 24 by KO (Alex Stewart) and this list is far more impressive than those of Liston, Marciano, Frazier, Dempsey, Foreman Johnson and even Louis.

[TheUptownKid]

Other former, future or current champs Holyfield beat...
Parkey
DeLeon
Qawi x 2
Douglas
Dokes
Thomas
Holmes
Foreman
Tyson x 2
Ruiz
Moorer
Bowe
Czyz
Mercer
Ocasio
Whilst some are cruiserweights, they were as big as Marciano, Dempsey, Louis and others plus Ocasio fought for the heavyweight title and Deleon fought as a heavy in some bouts.
Add to this list a guy who was 25-0 all 25 by KO (Alex Stewart) and this list is far more impressive than those of Liston, Marciano, Frazier, Dempsey, Foreman Johnson and even Louis.

So where do u rank him?

[chaconfan]

So where do u rank him?

Thanks for your interest. I don't really think ranking is possible to do in a fair way, so I don't do it myself, but thanks for asking pal.

[Larry the boss]

sounds like a poster from here made the list

[chaconfan]

sounds like a poster from here made the list

Would you elaborate? I know another boxing forum where they have a clique of mods, who bully and hate anyone who has their own opinion, or who dares to find any fault with a fighter they like. Maybe it is the same guy. I have seen that one of them posts on here. A vile scumbag, who is sarcastic, bitter, hypocritical, a know it all, totally biased, twists facts to suit his arguments, and hates everyone apart from Tyson...who just happens to be possibly the last boxer anyone should admire, as a person anyway.

[_Maxi]

I would like to point out the double standard and seemingly obvious bias that the article in the current Ring magazine shows regarding Holyfield.
He is listed below people like Marciano and Frazier despite accomplishing MUCH more. Did anyone notice the massive hypocrisy in the criteria for being marked down in this list?
Apparently the writer thinks that Holyfield didn't punch as hard as Marciano or Dempsey, and he goes on to state that to be able to fight you need a punch. Yet Ali who is the lightest puncher on the list, is NO1! Does this mean that Mayweather jnr, Sugar Ray Leonard, Willie Pep and Pernell Whittaker are not as good as guys in their weight classes who could punch harder? Holyfield dropped Bowe with one punch, Dempsey swarmed, and Marciano clubbed old men. The list is b.s.

Holifields entire career is based on steroids comsumption so I put any old time HW above him.

[soul_survivor]

What list? Post a link man.

In terms of Holy, he should never be outside of the top 5.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Holifields entire career is based on steroids comsumption so I put any old time HW above him.

Glad somebody said it. This guy is one of the biggest cheaters ever and people still praise him