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  • LockardTheGOAT
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    #21
    Originally posted by Poppo168
    And being strict on it will deter them from watching at all, put it this way, the person who's watching online streams may never pay for a bout in his life but he may then talk about the fighter to other people and they may be interested and pay for his fights. With no streams at all then that word of mouth goes out the window and is likely reducing the potential earnings of the fighter.

    I watch a lot of streams, reason being, I like boxing but don't really want to be spending money on PPV's all the time. I talk about boxing a lot and have encouraged others to watch, these people now often watch PPV's and pay for them too.
    Oh, bullshit. There are far more free boxing matches than there are PPVs, and if the amount of material already available out there (not to mention the last several decades of material that exists already) isn't enough to get them invested, then nothing likely will. And don't even try to convince me that if you were forced to pay for PPVs, you'd cease to be a boxing fan at all.

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    • Pigeons
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      #22
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
      Isn't this in conflict with Oscar's morals, considering how outspoken he's been about The Wall? Come on DLH, have sympathy on the illegal viewers.
      I have protected illegal status. Oscar can't take my stream due to regulations put in by the ***** regime. If he tries it, I will sue his ass.

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      • Jsmooth9876
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        #23
        Hopefully as aggressive as they've been with making the GGG fight. If that's the case we should be all set watching free streams.

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        • Poppo168
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          #24
          Originally posted by LockardTheGOAT
          Oh, bullshit. There are far more free boxing matches than there are PPVs, and if the amount of material already available out there (not to mention the last several decades of material that exists already) isn't enough to get them invested, then nothing likely will. And don't even try to convince me that if you were forced to pay for PPVs, you'd cease to be a boxing fan at all.
          Never seen anyone get so defensive about other people's money before.. there will always be people like yourself who will pay for PPV's. I personally will only pay for PPV's if its a fight I really want to see and don't want to risk missing anything because of a bad stream.

          Let's just look at Feb-March:
          Chris Eubank Jr vs. Renold Quinlan
          Adrien Broner vs. Adrian Granados
          Lucian Bute vs. Eleider Alvarez
          Miguel Cotto vs James Kirkland
          Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington
          Danny Garcia vs. Keith Thurman
          David Haye vs Tony Bellew
          Gennady Golovkin vs. Daniel Jacobs

          Didn't pay for any of them.. Either went to the pub to watch them with my friends or streamed them early in the morning as i'm in the UK.

          It's all well and good you like to support the promotions and fighters etc. but they're multi millionaires and I'm not so I can't say I feel bad.

          If Golden Boy decide to be overly strict they'll reduce exposure to their fighters, not sure why this is even being debated. I don't see everyone who is streaming deciding to pay for the card, they'll just watch fighters from other promotions.

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          • LockardTheGOAT
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            #25
            Originally posted by Poppo168
            Never seen anyone get so defensive about other people's money before.. there will always be people like yourself who will pay for PPV's. I personally will only pay for PPV's if its a fight I really want to see and don't want to risk missing anything because of a bad stream.

            Let's just look at Feb-March:
            Chris Eubank Jr vs. Renold Quinlan
            Adrien Broner vs. Adrian Granados
            Lucian Bute vs. Eleider Alvarez
            Miguel Cotto vs James Kirkland
            Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington
            Danny Garcia vs. Keith Thurman
            David Haye vs Tony Bellew
            Gennady Golovkin vs. Daniel Jacobs

            Didn't pay for any of them.. Either went to the pub to watch them with my friends or streamed them early in the morning as i'm in the UK.

            It's all well and good you like to support the promotions and fighters etc. but they're multi millionaires and I'm not so I can't say I feel bad.

            If Golden Boy decide to be overly strict they'll reduce exposure to their fighters, not sure why this is even being debated. I don't see everyone who is streaming deciding to pay for the card, they'll just watch fighters from other promotions.
            I'm not defensive, just tearing down your crumby logic. It's laughable that you think in this day and age, the electronic age of the internet where information about anything is readily available, that people won't be exposed to an age-old sport like boxing unless they're able to check it out through illegal streams. No one is reducing exposure of their fighters by cracking down on streaming, that's just a dumb attempt at rationalization.

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            • Poppo168
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              #26
              Originally posted by LockardTheGOAT
              I'm not defensive, just tearing down your crumby logic. It's laughable that you think in this day and age, the electronic age of the internet where information about anything is readily available, that people won't be exposed to an age-old sport like boxing unless they're able to check it out through illegal streams. No one is reducing exposure of their fighters by cracking down on streaming, that's just a dumb attempt at rationalization.
              Okay let's make this discussion more to the point because it's all over the place.

              Of the fights I listed which did you pay for & which did you not?

              When you don't get to watch a PPV fight what do you do?

              and finally

              What positive will clamping down on streaming do for Oscar? because I don't think it'll result in people paying for it instead, they just wont watch.

              Answer each please & ask me questions in return for a logical debate.

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              • Boxing lives
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                #27
                This fight is easily going to break a million views piracy or no piracy. Its probably the biggest money fight that could be made not involving Floyd

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                • Godsfly
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                  #28
                  dude.....it's like this. i pay for the fights i want and fights i don't feel is worth my money like canelo vs chavez i simply don't pay for and watch it online. also there is no subscription here for ppv fights like in the u.k.

                  in the u.k. u get a set subscription and the fights are there. not a 49 dollar amount for each and every PPV. PPV is dead and no one cares about your online wall.

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                  • KillaCamNZ
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jlbnls90
                    Pay per views shown in the the US are free in Mexico.. why do we have to pay and they don't.
                    It's business. Americans love giving away their money.

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                    • mathed
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                      #30
                      Stop being so damn greedy and lower the cost of your PPV's and you'll get plenty of buys. You charge $70.00 for a lineup of crap fights more often than not and you seem baffled why people don't want to pay for it.

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