Who do you have as P4P #1 right now?

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  • therealpugilist
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    #21
    Originally posted by Rock&Roll
    I am glad we agree.
    I didn't give Kov any points, i simply took them off Ward for looking ugly in parts, throughout the fight.
    If you're showboating, you are drawing your opponent into something or distracting them. Either way, you should be ready and gaurded with good balance.
    Kov got 'suckered' into jabbing him, which landed on Wards face and made him stumble backwards.

    5 seconds before this, Ward was bending below the waist. A real pugilist makes his oppoment miss by the smallest of margins, and doesn't need to have his head at waist level to avoid punches. I mean, this is acceptable for an average joe, but not what the best boxer on planet looks like imo.
    Ward slipped jabs inside(left), on the outside(to his right and countered to the body with a jab) , parried them to counter and cheek rolled them( like that right hand Jones had to correct lampley on NOT landing) from the outside moving laterally

    A lot of that stuff gets unnoticed by untrained eyes...not saying you, but a lot of casual fans dont even understand what theyre watching

    Both guys did some top notch moves in there

    I thoroughly enjoyed the fight

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    • Mukuro
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      #22
      I have Loma based on skill and dominance over his opponents. Without a question, he is the most dominant guy in the sport p4p.

      Ward would have it, but I can't justify him at number one since I don't think he deserved that win at all.

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      • therealpugilist
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        #23
        Originally posted by Mukuro
        I have Loma based on skill and dominance over his opponents. Without a question, he is the most dominant guy in the sport p4p.

        Ward would have it, but I can't justify him at number one since I don't think he deserved that win at all.
        He is awesome but his level of competition is also why he is so dominant

        He hasn't faced the type of comp Kov, ward, chocolatito, canelo has faced


        If he unifies 130 or beats Garcia

        He is my #1 for sure then

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        • Larry the boss
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          #24
          Ward..........

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            #25
            you cant be p4p#1 without ever having faced and beaten another p4p fighter...

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            • Mukuro
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              #26
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              He is awesome but his level of competition is also why he is so dominant

              He hasn't faced the type of comp Kov, ward, chocolatito, canelo has faced


              If he unifies 130 or beats Garcia

              He is my #1 for sure then
              It's true his resume can't stack up to those guys yet, but Walters and Russell are no joke (even if Loma made them look like it). I can agree though, a win over Garcia would solidify it.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Mukuro
                It's true his resume can't stack up to those guys yet, but Walters and Russell are no joke (even if Loma made them look like it). I can agree though, a win over Garcia would solidify it.
                Indeed my friend.


                My coach and boxing family love some Loma...I'm high on him too...just don't want to be overzealous... Watch his career play out before anointing him

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                • Mukuro
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  Indeed my friend.


                  My coach and boxing family love some Loma...I'm high on him too...just don't want to be overzealous... Watch his career play out before anointing him
                  Fair enough. For me, I am saying I believe he is the best based on what I've seen. He still has to prove it.

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                  • therealpugilist
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mukuro
                    Fair enough. For me, I am saying I believe he is the best based on what I've seen. He still has to prove it.
                    Lets sit back and enjoy the clinics he puts on until he gets those fights....I enjoy studying him

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                      #30
                      Vacant. Or Ward. I'd rather wait until the rematch.

                      P4P is opinion based at the end of the day.

                      I had Ward winning by one point against Kovalev, but that was a very controversial fight to score. A rematch is needed.

                      Not just that, but I had Roman G. winning his fight clearly as well, in a non-controversial way. Still haven't watched it again, but I thought he clearly won and was surprised first time watching it.


                      Had Ward lost, and Roman G won, it would be Roman G. But now I'm kind of iffy about it. Kovalev doesnt get #1 for beating Ward either, imo.

                      It's a cluster**** right now, Ward probably deserves it, but I feel it was a 51/49 fight for either side, and I feel Roman G got robbed so ehhh.

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