Does Al Haymon deserve more credit?

[stiff_back]

I've been thinking about it, for about 70+ years of boxing history, fighters had been consistently ripped off by promoters/ managers. Al Haymon comes along and single-handidly transforms the game, so that even old promoters have to pay their fighters properly.

You'd think if the sport didn't have such cannibalistic fans, this would be hailed as a pretty remarkable legacy, even if you had other criticisms of him. Instead, all some fans and writers say about him is that he allows fighter to get paid too much.

But as a change from the last 70 years, isn't that overall a pretty great thing? Shouldn't some of his positive contributions be mentioned alongside the bad?

[al-Xander]

Mayweather aka TBE disagrees with you.

Mayweather: I'll Tell Haymon - Fighters Getting Too Much Money!

[stiff_back]

Mayweather aka TBE disagrees with you.

Mayweather: I'll Tell Haymon - Fighters Getting Too Much Money!

Look you completely missed the point of what I said: surely fighters having long term financial security is more important than bad matchmaking at times.

But if you call Mayweather "TBE" then you probably swallow everything he says, so no point arguing I guess.

[PK3434]

Al Haymon for the most part, is a great manager for his main guys. There is no denying that. He is obviously smart as hell and has built himself to have a huge amount of leverage within the boxing business. Even if PBC completely fails, which it will in relation to the perceived goals that they started with, Haymon is still the most powerful person in boxing. So, if you are, let's say, one of Haymon's top 20 prioritized fighters, you will obviously love him.

But in what Haymon does overall for the sport, (some positive, some negative), it is very debatable that he is having a net positive impact.

[stiff_back]

But in what Haymon does overall for the sport, (some positive, some negative), it is very debatable that he is having a net positive impact.

Is is debatable though? The majority of former champs before Haymon retired penniless. Now even guys with TR, like Tim Bradley, make lots of money (though Pac still seems to get screwed somehow).

The fact that he is basically (I can't stress enough) solely responsible for this change is a pretty good legacy to have as a person don't you think?

My point is sometimes we judge things based purely on our own interest as fans and don't consider what it's actually like for fighters.

[SensFullViolenc]

I guess Im more self-interested than you all.

Its great that he gets his guys paid, but honestly my heart doesn't go out for dudes I don't know personally,

I want to see good fights. I don't wish poverty or dementia on the participants, but my viewing pleasure takes priority. I do think there should be protections in place for boxer health & that they don't get ripped off.

When there is a good PBC fight I watch. When its mediocre (and lately they have been garbage) I don't.

I'll reserve "credit" and admiration for people doing more important things in this world

[al-Xander]

Look you completely missed the point of what I said: surely fighters having long term financial security is more important than bad matchmaking at times.

Doe, only a handful of fighters get the lion share of the purses. If you're someone like Salka, you're likely to end up in the emergency room and get billed most of your earnings, which is only around 4% of what guys like Garcia get. Quillin got $1 mil for fighting Zerafa, who left the ring on a stretcher. What Haymon has been doing is not only bad for the sport, but dangerous -- showcase his main fighters fighting nobodies, then pay them large sums of money. Quillin hasn't fought for more than a year now.

[The Big Dunn]

I think he does in the sense that his model eliminates the promoter from the equation, which in many ways is a good thing. Obviously his model pays the fighters more because it increases his cut as the manager.

[Kigali]

He's paying ALL of Pritchet Colon's medical expenses.

I bet his family thinks so.

[Madison Boxing]

credit for what!?!?! ruining all interest in boxing in america? If thats what you want to give him credit for then i will oblige- well done al haymon!