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  • DeadLikeMe
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    #61
    Floyd was considered the greatest of his era by writers and historians before he beat Pac head to head. Then he schooled Pac 118-110 cementing his spot as by far the greatest fighter of his generation.
    Last edited by DeadLikeMe; 04-17-2017, 05:52 PM.

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    • hugh grant
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      #62
      Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
      Floyd was considered the greatest of his era by writers and historians before he beat Pac head to head. Then he schooled Pac 118-110 cementing his spot as by far the greatest fighter of his generation.
      Did you just make this up? PAC was considered greater than Floyd until he got koed by jmm more like it.
      For a while it was open season for PAC and poa was butt of all jokes.......jokes being operative word.
      But PAC has reestablished his reputation with wsins over Bradley and slo mo second viewing win over fkloyd

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #63
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Did you just make this up? PAC was considered greater than Floyd until he got koed by jmm more like it.
        For a while it was open season for PAC and poa was butt of all jokes.......jokes being operative word.
        But PAC has reestablished his reputation with wsins over Bradley and slo mo second viewing win over fkloyd
        Manny has never been seen as better than Floyd by anyone credible or honest at any point in his career, something his fans can never admit. I get that you like Manny but liking him doesn't make him better.

        There is a reason manny always finishes behind Floyd whenever all time or generational rankings are compiled.

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          #64
          Originally posted by daggum
          and floyds 40 million flat offer tht killed the fight from 2011-2015? will people forget that?
          This is a lie. Instead of cotto, Floyd tried to fight Manny before he went to jail.Manny got stitches put in his head by his promoter's future son in law after he and his promoter claimed they were prepared to fight in May. Then he was suddenly unavailable.

          Funny but you always leave this out daggum. It's like you are trying to make it go away because it shows unequivocally that Manny and his team kept avoiding the fight.

          His personal physician, the ringside dr nor the dr in the hospital that did the post fight check felt stitches were needed.

          Stop trying to blame Manny's actions on Floyd. He's his own man and made the decision, along with his promoter and team, to avoid Floyd.

          When they fought, it became evident why.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
            There is no proof of Marquez being on steroids only speculation which is not good enough to level accusations at him. Marquez went through the same testing that Manny Pacquiao and his team said was good enough in 2010 so stop reaching. Pacquiao had 4 shots at Marquez, fought him at 4 different weights, and could never beat him clearly.

            Floyd fought plenty of guys in their primes. Hatton, Guerrero, Maidana and Corrales were all prime. Canelo had 42 wins and 30 wins by KO and was hyped up as the guy to beat Floyd and he lost decisively. Stop looking for excuses.
            Talk to your boy Floyd and all his fans about making false accusations. That's where it all started. Pac beat JMM three times if you count the first fight where he was robbed of a point by Burt Clements incompetency. Anyone with two eyes can see the tell-tale signs of PED use in JMM since 2012. Teaming up with Memo didn't help his cause.

            The fighters you listed weren't elite fighters in their prime. Guerrero was C-rate at best, Maidana, Corrales, Hatton were not ATGs or elites. Canelo was green and hadn't fought anyone noteworthy leading up to the Mayweather fight, which was dull enough to put coke addicts asleep.

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            • hugh grant
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              #66
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Manny has never been seen as better than Floyd by anyone credible or honest at any point in his career, something his fans can never admit. I get that you like Manny but liking him doesn't make him better.

              There is a reason manny always finishes behind Floyd whenever all time or generational rankings are compiled.
              Did you just make this up as you go along? PAC had a better resume than Floyd and in more divisions why in god's earth would people not see PAC as better?
              He has 2 wins over Morales and Barrera and Bradley and 3 over jmm!
              He's beaten everyone Floyd has also but komost them instead.
              Last edited by hugh grant; 04-17-2017, 07:23 PM.

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              • pacphobia
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                #67
                Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                Floyd beat the guy (Marquez) who knocked out Manny with ease, had a longer undefeated streak than Manny, and beat Manny in a hug and run contest. Floyd is also the only undefeated five division champion in boxing history. He is the greater fighter for sure.
                Fixed it for you.

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                • Johnwoo8686
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  Talk to your boy Floyd and all his fans about making false accusations. That's where it all started. Pac beat JMM three times if you count the first fight where he was robbed of a point by Burt Clements incompetency. Anyone with two eyes can see the tell-tale signs of PED use in JMM since 2012. Teaming up with Memo didn't help his cause.

                  The fighters you listed weren't elite fighters in their prime. Guerrero was C-rate at best, Maidana, Corrales, Hatton were not ATGs or elites. Canelo was green and hadn't fought anyone noteworthy leading up to the Mayweather fight, which was dull enough to put coke addicts asleep.
                  Guerrero was not C rated. He was a champion in 4 weight classes, you don't accomplish that being C rated smart guy. And if you're going to accuse Floyd of leveling false allegations against Manny it is hypocritical to label false allegations against Marquez.

                  Canelo was not green with 42 fights, 30 KOs, and already a pro for 8 years. You're just making a bunch of excuses now. Who did Manny beat that was elite and in their prime? Both Barrera and Morales were at the end of their rope and Morales still whooped Manny the first time they fought. Keep up the excuses.

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                  • boxinggod101
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                    Mayweather will always be known as the greatest fighter of his generation but Manny will also be remembered as an ATG action fighter who captivated a nation and his country. Why can't we appreciate both if their greatness.
                    Great answer and I totally agree...

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      who is going to forget manny plankman? floyd has never had a memorable fight or moment like that. he will be forgotten. his resume has big names but all well past their best. hes going to look worse and worse over time as the fanboyism fades and people can objectively look at his resume. meh is the word that comes to mind. no notable fights and a meh resume? just doesnt have anything worth remembering.
                      So you hope. And you honestly believe it too.

                      In reality the opposite will likely happen.

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