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  • Rockybigblower
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    #21
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    I like to see the titles unified but it seems very hard to do with the promoter feuds and the network feuds. Will Crawford fight this new champion. I sure hope so. I don't really know what happened to the GGG vs Saunders fight. Will Wilder fight the winner of AJ vs Wlad or will he just promise to fight the winner and not do so?
    Thats not the problem...once the belts ate unified its simply that one organisation or another will strip a champion if they face another organisations mandatory. Its all about those sanctioning fees.

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    • Tony Trick-Pony
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      #22
      Originally posted by Rockybigblower
      Thats not the problem...once the belts ate unified its simply that one organisation or another will strip a champion if they face another organisations mandatory. Its all about those sanctioning fees.
      For sure. The fees are what keep them going. Great name by the way, man. Ha.

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        #23
        Originally posted by anthonydavid11
        For sure. The fees are what keep them going. Great name by the way, man. Ha.
        Balboa was already taken.

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          #24
          I came from a time when unified champions meant a lot. An undisputed champion(all the titles) was king. Truly I miss those times! Titles today are so diluted. Like a weak drink watered down, having four champions per division does nothing for the sport. Nothing for the fans. But unfortunately, it is a business and anything resembling tradition, goes out the window.

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          • Tony Trick-Pony
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            #25
            Originally posted by Rockybigblower
            Balboa was already taken.
            LOL. Well you picked a great substitute man.

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              #26
              Originally posted by TBear
              I came from a time when unified champions meant a lot. An undisputed champion(all the titles) was king. Truly I miss those times! Titles today are so diluted. Like a weak drink watered down, having four champions per division does nothing for the sport. Nothing for the fans. But unfortunately, it is a business and anything resembling tradition, goes out the window.
              THAT is a cause of many problems in the sport. Boxing is a business and it does make money, but people don't respect it much as a sport any more. Why should they? Too many titles and divisions and guys not wanting to fight each other and promoters protecting guys and the viewer being held as the least important part of this equation. It's just ridiculous.

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                #27
                Originally posted by anthonydavid11
                THAT is a cause of many problems in the sport. Boxing is a business and it does make money, but people don't respect it much as a sport any more. Why should they? Too many titles and divisions and guys not wanting to fight each other and promoters protecting guys and the viewer being held as the least important part of this equation. It's just ridiculous.
                I agree, this is a good explanation of today's problems. A good reason for promoters, managers and the fighters themselves to think as themselves as a commodity and increase the value of the fighter's stock. What I mean is that every fighter and promoter wants to make more money. And the way to do that is to make the fighter a more sellable item. To really do this is to gain titles, which means taking risks.
                When was the last time a fighter completely cleaned out a division? That is what truly makes a fighter a superstar. This is what the sport needs, it is what the fans need and it is the pot of gold for fighters and the promoters. There should be no shortcuts.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TBear
                  I agree, this is a good explanation of today's problems. A good reason for promoters, managers and the fighters themselves to think as themselves as a commodity and increase the value of the fighter's stock. What I mean is that every fighter and promoter wants to make more money. And the way to do that is to make the fighter a more sellable item. To really do this is to gain titles, which means taking risks.
                  When was the last time a fighter completely cleaned out a division? That is what truly makes a fighter a superstar. This is what the sport needs, it is what the fans need and it is the pot of gold for fighters and the promoters. There should be no shortcuts.
                  Man, it's been a long time. I'd like to take Golovkin for example. He hasn't cleaned out 160, but he has made a big impact and if he can get the title unified, I'd love to see it stay that way. But look how long it has taken him. He won his first piece of the title in 2010. Seven years later, he's almost got all the belts. And we've been seeing some of his old opponents fighting each other. Now whether you like him or not, this type of thing is good for boxing. One champion with numerous contenders vying for a shot- quality fights without every single fight being called a title fight. The light heavyweight division is the same. If Crawford can get Indongo, we'll have great things happening. In the old days with one champion, you had lots of great contenders who might not have won a title but gave us great fights with each other and usually gave the champion hell. If they want to showcase fighters, do it in non-titles. The title fights should be events where we get quality and highly competitive fights. Nowadays a guy might get four or five cracks at alphabet titles. Back then, you better make your shot count. It leads to a higher level of competition. We're inching there recently. I hope it goes further.

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                  • harrys
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                    #29
                    Why would Crawford fight Indongo if theres no money in it?, what counts to a fighter who already has 1 or 2 of the belts?

                    They have no choice but to take the fights for the biggest purse,make as much as they can,pay the taxes and pay everybody who gets their cut.

                    Crawford for example may have a bigger purse to earn if he beats Diaz and then fights the winner of Brook vs Spence.
                    that's modern boxing...just sayin

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