Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: Rigondeaux is Pound-for-Pound Number One

[cameltoe]

Thurman at no.5 P4P.... lol.

[garfios]

this guy lives on a different planet. beating donaire a few years ago and not doing anything since then makes you pound for pound number 1? Really? didnt he struggle with some bum a couple years ago aswell...

No you are wrong, he has never struggle with anyone...

[aboutfkntime]

Rigo is the most talented but I factor resume into my p4p and I'm finding a hard time keeping Rigo on the list. Granted, it's not all resume and each person has to define what p4p means for them so I don't expect us all to have the same fantasy list.

if ALL things were equal, Rigo would win.....

Rigondeaux
Ward
Lomachenko
Gonzales
Kovalev

[garfios]

So Rigo just put a rodeblock by wanting a rehydration clause. This dude has no negotiating leverage and he still puts up some ridiculous demands. But yeah Loma ducked him by making him an offer to fight him, great argument.

And whatr kind of leverage did lomachanko had back then? donaire's resume piss on every fighter lomachenko has fought. blame this to arum, he already put a cash cow againts Rigondeaux and loss. He was not about to put another one and 10 pounds is not ridiculous it is more or less what normal boxer would put up. Rigondeaux fights at 122 and doesn't go over 126 the night of the fight, He already dealt with donaires weight, actually against everyone he has fought.

[Gillie]

I think people often confuse most talented and most potential with best pound for pound. This should be primarily based on resume. Rigondeaux is ultra talented as is Lomachenko but one hasn't been fighting and the other still needs to have a few more fights (although HI Tech is well on his way) Ward himself has an argument for the top spot but I can't remember a time when the top spot wasn't clear cut but so heavily debated. Maybe back when Mosley was 1, Trinidad was 2 and Jones Jr was 3rd. Around 2001 I think.

[aboutfkntime]

I think people often confuse most talented and most potential with best pound for pound. This should be primarily based on resume. Rigondeaux is ultra talented as is Lomachenko but one hasn't been fighting and the other still needs to have a few more fights (although HI Tech is well on his way) Ward himself has an argument for the top spot but I can't remember a time when the top spot wasn't clear cut but so heavily debated. Maybe back when Mosley was 1, Trinidad was 2 and Jones Jr was 3rd. Around 2001 I think.

no, I completely disagree

resume has little to do with who you think would win

you are referring to current ATG

e.g.
I favor Spence over the more experienced Brook
I favor Crawford over the more experienced Pac

but the current ATG is Pac, no question, best resume by far

resume add's that proven factor, which more accurately describes current ATG

Mayweather was the best fighter in the world long before he officially hit the P4P #1 spot..... you either knew, or you did not

P4P should be based on..... if all things were equal, who would win..... based on style/skill/form..... a good resume is great because it adds that proven factor, but many vets lost to less experienced guys who were on the up..... in fact, just about all of them did

P4P is totally based on opinion..... it should not be taken seriously, and is horribly over-rated

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Everything this Guy Says is Bull****

All that comes out of his mouth is pity me bull crap. Learn to win without fouling your opponent repeatedly and you'll get respect.

It's laughabl to say Rigo is p4p 1#.

[mathed]

Yeah, that sounds like something Ward would say too. A guy who has had 17 fights in 8 years is P4P#1. Don't get me wrong, Rigondeaux is a great boxer, but he has more dust on him than my baseball card collection does.

[mathed]

And still...

[Sweet_Science2]

I def have Ward, Crawford, Rigo, in my top 3 hands down. My man Spence is climbing the ladder I have to see more work before I crown him. But Ward, and especially Rigo will be hard to beat.

Nobody from 122-130 is remotely fuucking with Rigo. NOBODY.