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Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: Rigondeaux is Pound-for-Pound Number One
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... Rigo, Crawford, Canelo, Loma, and Thurman...
Ward is celebrating high skilled boxers...
... Gonzalez is failing to enter his top 5 maybe because, in his last "test", Chocolatito didn't show that "intelligence" Dre is always asking for...
... the fact that GGG is missing too is understandable -- GGG said about Ward that he was "dead as a man" for him...
Rigo at #1?... Rigo is now Ward's stablemate... and who ducked Rigo?... LSC, Frampton and Loma (at the catch weight of 124)...Last edited by MDPopescu; 04-15-2017, 04:20 AM.
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As much as I like to tune into 3G fights, based on his last 2 showings I wouldn't have him on my top 5 list either. Didn't look stellar vs Brook or Jacobs, did he?
My top 5: 1. Ricky Burns 2. Ricky Burns 3. Ricky Burns 4. Ricky Burns and 5. Rigondeaux.
Who could argue with that?
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Originally posted by danceswithfire View Postthat was said before the first fight, what if the rematch ended up close again like first then p4p would still be vacant.
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostThat's the real reason Andre Ward is disliked. He talks so much about valuing resumé, like he's this holier than thou hero and the only guy out there with a real track record, and yet his best legitimate win is ****ing Carl Froch. Carl Froch, the slowest champion in the history of boxing lol. That's why people don't like Ward. The way he talks about himself, you think he went up to heavyweight and beat prime Muhammad Ali, but then you find out his entire resumé is Carl Froch and an old, injured Kessler, and an old Arthur Abraham. Those guys might have had better resumés before they got old than GGG's best opponents, but Ward didn't face them before they got old (except for Froch), he faced the versions that got in the ring, which makes the wins much less impressive.
And resumés aside, if you're talking about AT THE TIME they got into the ring, I think the speed, power, and athleticism of prime David Lemieux, and prime Danny Jacobs, are much more dangerous opponents than slow Froch or old Abraham and Kessler. And yet Ward acts like GGG is a hype job but he's Muhammad Ali. Dude, you beat Carl Froch. Carl Froch. Andre Dirrell and Jermain Taylor already did it better than you for most of the fight. You didn't beat George Foreman.
But, he talks like he has, and that's what's annoying. He's constantly saying "I've already accomplished everything in my career, I can retire now because I've done it all." Is beating Carl Froch "accomplishing everything"? I just don't get it, but I'm glad the Kovalev rematch is happening.
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I can understand why Ward would think living off of a single top win years ago would make someone pound for pound king...
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Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post... Rigo, Crawford, Canelo, Loma, and Thurman...
Ward is celebrating high skilled boxers...
... Gonzalez is failing to enter his top 5 maybe because, in his last "test", Chocolatito didn't show that "intelligence" Dre is always asking for...
... the fact that GGG is missing too is understandable -- GGG said about Ward that he was "dead as a man" for him...
Rigo at #1?... Rigo is now Ward's stablemate... and who ducked Rigo?... LSC, Frampton and Loma (at the catch weight of 124)...
Well wasn't it Rigo that refused to fight Loma, when Loma gave him an actual offer? Nice way to spin it I guess.
And let's not fool ourselves, Rigo got hurt and knocked down by some bums in Japan, he's not so invicible as y'all say he is, he plays it safe for most part, but he can get hit. A bigger, stronger fighter in Loma would most likely knock him out. Great big fighter beats great small fighter, We will never know that for sure because Rigo didn't want his biggest payday lol
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