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Originally posted by original zero View PostMy point is that ESPN has no interest in paying for boxing, so PBC has no interest in continuing the relationship with ESPN. The fact that ESPN2 will be receiving low level Golden Boy cards for free is irrelevant.
Because PBC saw no point in picking up the 2017 option if they know for a fact that no matter what they do, ESPN will not be paying for boxing in 2018. The point of the time buys was to prove what kind of ratings PBC could do and convince networks to pay for them. Fox is willing to pay. CBS is willing to pay. ESPN is not. So why waste any money on additional ESPN time buys?
Golden Boy was willing to give shows away for free. PBC is getting ready to convert to paid only shows in 2018, so if ESPN wasn't willing to pay, it was time to cut ties. There may still be a few more PBC shows on ESPN later in the year. The two sides are arguing about who owes what for when as some dates were pushed back. But the bottom line is that ESPN is having financial problems, has no interest in paying for boxing, so PBC wants to minimize/avoid additional payments to ESPN.
Showtime is PBC's primary partner and always has been. Haymon put his fighters on NBC & ESPN a few times. Couldn't get those networks to bite. Put his fighters on Fox a few times and it looks like Fox will bite.
Haymon has more power than he's ever had and more world champions than he's ever had. He has more control at Showtime than he's ever had and a bigger budget at Showtime than he's ever had.
How can PBC be a failure when Haymon is sitting in a much better situation today than he was before PBC launched? Showtime is now the #1 network for boxing and Haymon gets almost their entire budget to play with.
What really has changed in boxing?
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That is unfortunate because I liked Spike Coverage but things to be narrowing down to CBS/Showtime and Fox/Fox Sports. Basically it all depends on what happens with UFC Next Year honestly. If Fox loses the UFC which many expect they will then maybe PBC slides in as program replacementI guess we will just have to wait and see but yeah the contracts are starting to run out so either networks will choose to invest into it or pass on it
MMA is the better investment in the States right now, Bellator draws way better and more consistent ratings!
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Originally posted by JrRod View PostI never understood why pbc tried so many networks.
They should have stuck with one network, once a week or two weeks, same time.
Hopefully they get that now and do it with fox sports.
Same channel, same time, every week.
This answer to your question as to why Haymon put PBC on so may networks is because he was trying to monopolize the sport by locking out all all other promoters from getting tv deals. That is the only explanation for doing such an insane plan. ESPN, FOX, Fox Sports1, Bounce, CBS, NBC, Showtime, Spike. Haymon was just trying to cuttoff access to tv for other promoters. So he was making an educated guess on which networks boxing would possibly go to. Instead of putting on great competitive fights on a few channels and beating his competition with a better product Haymon, instead used his millions to try and gain control over the entire sport (which logically can't be done) that explains the multiple channels, the overpaying fighters purses, sitting on venues to block use by other promoters, stealing fighters from golden boy using that douche bag Schaefer, blocking his fighters from using other promoters, trying to cut out the sanctioning bodies.
But, as many of us said 2 yrs ago his plan was going to fail and it failed spectacularly. So spectacularly that he has probably set boxing back 10-15yrs. For some reason people think just because Haymon went to Harvard that made him a genius, boy were they wrong.
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Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan View PostSo much for free boxing and changing the game and bringing boxing back to the mainstream.
What really has changed in boxing?
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Originally posted by jdp28tx View PostHaymon did change boxing, but not for the better. He has made sure good young fighters only fight once per year. He has made good young fighters and older fighters into divas in which they will not fight anyone with a pulse unless they are compensated outrageous amounts of money, he has probably made sure not one network will put boxing regularly on their channel again for 10-15yrs, and he has ruined most of his stables careers. Most of his fighters will become known as the lost generation of boxers (the list is long), because he has no money to pay them to fight.
Don't be so negative, Haymon is a black man, a ****** lover, but still a black man.
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Originally posted by jdp28tx View PostHaymon did change boxing, but not for the better. He has made sure good young fighters only fight once per year. He has made good young fighters and older fighters into divas in which they will not fight anyone with a pulse unless they are compensated outrageous amounts of money, he has probably made sure not one network will put boxing regularly on their channel again for 10-15yrs, and he has ruined most of his stables careers. Most of his fighters will become known as the lost generation of boxers (the list is long), because he has no money to pay them to fight.
Walters for example
Oscar has young fighters that haven't fought in over 2 years.
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Originally posted by sicko View PostThat is unfortunate because I liked Spike Coverage but things to be narrowing down to CBS/Showtime and Fox/Fox Sports. Basically it all depends on what happens with UFC Next Year honestly. If Fox loses the UFC which many expect they will then maybe PBC slides in as program replacementI guess we will just have to wait and see but yeah the contracts are starting to run out so either networks will choose to invest into it or pass on it
MMA is the better investment in the States right now, Bellator draws way better and more consistent ratings!
MMA's biggest star is trying to get a boxing license....and others are following.
I don't see boxing's biggest stars moving over to MMA.
Think before you type next time.Last edited by Kigali; 04-13-2017, 07:32 PM.
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Originally posted by Kigali View PostDon't you be so negative.
Oscar IS a ******.....a mexican....and a real life ******...not a word about him.
I wonder why???
Your 10,000 plus post in less than 10 months speaks on you being a true losers loser. Not only are you a loser but you don't know **** about boxing and one of your heros, Haymon, is a ****** lover. lol lol lol
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