Comments Thread For: Spike's TV Deal With Premier Boxing Champions Has Ended

[Lester Tutor]

the PBC brand has established itself. at this point the fewer networks the better.

[filup79]

**** no. Let MismatchBC end for good. Free the few top fighters on the roster from the JV team so they can integrate back into Varsity boxing where Lomachenko, Kovalev, GGG, Ward, Crawford, Canelo, and Valdez fight. The top 10 P4P fighters are almost all on HBO besides maybe Mikey Garcia soon, and possibly Errol Spence but he's really a weight bully fighting at 147 when he admitted he weighs 180 normally. If the other fighters want to be relevant, they need to get in that mix with the top guys, and get out from the Junior Varsity Champions aka PBC umbrella.

All those guys you mentioned are always fighting mismatches on HBO or PPV. Where's the outcry there, let me guess, HBO gets a pass. HBO just had a big mismatch this past weekend. Every promoter and every network puts on mismatches.

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Al "****** lover" Haymon is suppose to change the game though. Free boxing doe.

This Format was destined to fail and Haymon knew that.

Lol at everyone who thought Haymon had the boxing fan in mind when starting this.

This was all a scam for Haymon to funell that investor money he came into, what was it almost a billion dollars, straight into his pockets.

Free boxing DOE.

[MasterPlan]

This has nothing to do with the content, IMO. Other than the show in Jan, Spike usually put on good cards.

The article was very stern with them going the Bellator route. That's really the main thing I get.

[bigdunny1]

All those guys you mentioned are always fighting mismatches on HBO or PPV. Where's the outcry there, let me guess, HBO gets a pass. HBO just had a big mismatch this past weekend. Every promoter and every network puts on mismatches.

HBO is already an established brand in boxing. They didn't just flush 500 million down the drain to build a new brand. HBO doesn't lose money on their fights, the problem with PBC isn't just that they put on mismatches they severely overpaid for these mismatches and created a business model they couldn't sustain after just 1 year. Then spent year 2 limping down the stretch canceling dates because they can't afford to produce cards anymore. There is no shot they are recouping their loses and after all that money do casual fans even know or care about PBC? The networks clearly don't that's why they all jumping ship. If the networks were happy and willing to pay you could say this money splurging was worth it. But they aren't so there is really nothing to show for all these mismatches. Haymon will be fine it wasn't his money he lost. If PBC folds he does what he's doing now just sends his fighters to showtime.

[True-Boxing-Fan]

the PBC brand has established itself. at this point the fewer networks the better.

With what budget. Haymon all but pissed away and pocketed that investor money he came into.

If he wanted to really establish something he wouldn't have went channel happy and try and broadcast this on every network possible.

Just imagine if he exclusively only used two channels as his outlet. With that money he had to start with he could have broadcasted a big fight every month then maybe broadcast lower level fights inbetween. And slowly let it grow.

Instead he went channel buying crazy paid his fighters over markets price in mismatch fights and within a year blew through half his budget and with year two done all the money is pretty much dried up. Now with low rating tv channels are turning away his PBC product.

In other words he should have focused more on quality fights over quantity mismatch fights.

[JJRod]

All those guys you mentioned are always fighting mismatches on HBO or PPV. Where's the outcry there, let me guess, HBO gets a pass. HBO just had a big mismatch this past weekend. Every promoter and every network puts on mismatches.

There were out cries from fans. You just don't remember.

In fact if you remember the time before pbc and there was a cold war between GBP and TR, golden boys showtime was beating up on HBO s top rank having better matches and getting pretty close to besting them on ratings.

[Lester Tutor]

With what budget. Haymon all but pissed away and pocketed that investor money he came into.

If he wanted to really establish something he wouldn't have went channel happy and try and broadcast this on every network possible.

Just imagine if he exclusively only used two channels as his outlet. With that money he had to start with he could have broadcasted a big fight every month then maybe broadcast lower level fights inbetween. And slowly let it grow.

Instead he went channel buying crazy paid his fighters over markets price in mismatch fights and within a year blew through half his budget and with year two done all the money is pretty much dried up. Now with low rating tv channels are turning away his PBC product.

In other words he should have focused more on quality fights over quantity mismatch fights.

that's not how you brand. campaigns require a lot of power to begin with and that's investing and placing your chips. CBS in PBC's portfolio against other primetime competitive sports is an accomplishment. you need filler. a Record store can't just stock one hit wonders

[JJRod]

This.


Remember when it first started it was all over the place its like I made the schedule drunk as hell.

They must have been drunk to p1ss away all the money they did like that.

[Butch.McRae]

I would explain why this decision was made in detail but it'd be a waste of my time. For those that are interested just check out the wall street journal article on Viacom's new direction.

Long story made short: cut cost and grow our own brands. Bellator is owned by Viacom. Why pay PBC when I have a competing product?