Comments Thread For: Spike's TV Deal With Premier Boxing Champions Has Ended

[original zero]

I dont know the answer to that and neither do you. Its impossible to say what other opportunities they might have had if they werent locked into a deal where they cant even take a **** without papa Al giving them the nod.

Can we at least agree that many of Al's world champions would not be world champions if they weren't with Al?

As for Al being "controlling," how is he any more controlling than his predecessors?

[original zero]

And what has all this accumulated power brought to the boxing world? Whilst boxing is flourishing around the world, it has never been in a more dire state in America. And it isn't a coincidence that this has happened whilst Haymon's power base has increased.

The facts don't support your premise. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE are watching boxing in the US that weren't watching before PBC.

[uppercut510]

trying to figure out how this means pbc is going down???? u guys are too much

[OnePunch]

Can we at least agree that many of Al's world champions would not be world champions if they weren't with Al?

As for Al being "controlling," how is he any more controlling than his predecessors?

like who????

Edit: on second thought, there are probably a few guys that if not with Haymon they might have had to fight a live body and lost their title. Lara comes to mind. Must be nice to have a world title and spend 3 years fighting the likes of Ishe Smith, Delvin Rodriguez, Jan Zavack, Vanes, and Yuri friggin Foreman.

Really going out on a limb there Erislandy.

LMAO

[DinoCop]

Can someone please tell me the difference between PBC and Showtime.
What they do? Aren't they all the same thing? Why sometimes commentators and visuals are different?

[original zero]

Can someone please tell me the difference between PBC and Showtime.
What they do? Aren't they all the same thing? Why sometimes commentators and visuals are different?

Most Showtime Boxing Championship events are presented by Premier Boxing Champions, but not all of them.

Al is keeping his options open for maximum leverage, so Stephen is keeping his options ofpen for maximum leverage.

But at the end of the day, Al, Schaefer, Showtime, Floyd, etc are working in unison.

The big question is how much Al can get FOX to pony up next year. Impossible to say until we see how crazy the bidding gets for UFC.

[al-Xander]

Most of PBC's top fighters are now fighting once a year. So this is no surprise. Names such as Thurman, Porter, Broner, Peterson, Berto, Lara, Charlo, Andrade, Dirrel, Stevenson, Jacobs, Quillin, Degale, Khan... It's abysmal.

This can't be a coincidence.

[Porter's Dad]

The facts don't support your premise. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE are watching boxing in the US that weren't watching before PBC.

Oh, right. MILLION OF PEOPLE ARE NOW WATCHING BOXING THANKS TO AL HAYMON. Fleeting moment of success based on a few fights that people have already forgotten about - or do you think those watchers will now stick with boxing?

And if MILLIONS ARE WATCHING, then I guess you believe boxing in America is healthy? The PBC model is succeeding? Because the state of boxing in America represents the success (or not) of the most powerful man in American boxing - Al Haymon.

[bigdunny1]

Can someone please tell me the difference between PBC and Showtime.
What they do? Aren't they all the same thing? Why sometimes commentators and visuals are different?

huge difference. PBC not on Showtime are fights that PBC actually produces and pays for themselves. Showtime fights are basically Haymon fighters fighting on Showtime like they did BEFORE PBC was created. They are paid by Showtime and Showtime just being nice by throwing up a PBC banner to help Haymon promote his brand. But it's really not PBC and if PBC folds they just take down the banner and Haymon keeps sending his fights to Showtime like any other promoter would send fights to HBO/Showtime.

The reason you see less and less PBC fights on NBC, FOX, ESPN ect is because PBC pays for the air time and pays to produce these fights that lose money. PBC on Showtime is just Haymon getting money from Showtime per fight which is the same model that existed before PBC. That's why all his fighters going back to showtime PBC running out of money and can't afford to pay for their own fights even though they ALREADY bought the air time to do so on other networks

[bigdunny1]

Most Showtime Boxing Championship events are presented by Premier Boxing Champions, but not all of them.

Al is keeping his options open for maximum leverage, so Stephen is keeping his options ofpen for maximum leverage.

But at the end of the day, Al, Schaefer, Showtime, Floyd, etc are working in unison.

The big question is how much Al can get FOX to pony up next year. Impossible to say until we see how crazy the bidding gets for UFC.

They are different en****** that from time to time Haymon works with but are not always PBC. For example DeGale vs Jack people try to lump that in with PBC but that entire card had nothing to do with PBC. Mayweather promotions promoted that on Showtime. There were no PBC banners, no PBC black ropes or PBC future fight advertisements in the ring. You had a couple Haymon fighters on the card that were paid by showtime/mayweather promotions. People falsely try to give credit to PBC for this when it's not. That's like saying PBC get's credit for GGG/Jacobs. No PBC had nothing to do with that fight. Jacobs was a Haymon fighter but K2/HBO paid and promoted this fight.

And again with fairy tales of a network paying for PBC. No chance, FOX has aired exactly 1 PBC fight since end of July last year and it's mid April and they don't have a single fight yet announced for FOX later this year. But you think when UFC is up they will pay a dime for this? SMH They a non factor to FOX. PBC only airing fights on the smaller sister station FS1 these days and that's for cheap fights for prospects. That seems to be all PBC can afford everything else going back to Showtime. We haven't seen a PBC fight in forever on NBC or ESPN. 2 different reports that PBC doesn't want to pay NBC or ESPN for the time buys they owe and that ESPN might have to litigate. The moment the FOX time buy is over the only thing you might see PBC get is a small tv deal with sister station FS1 but nothing to recoup the close to half a billion PBC has already lost.