Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Won't Go Back to 168 for Golovkin or Anyone Else

[mathed]

Ward is cashing out, he's gonna school Kovalev and ride off into the sunset.

Like he "schooled" him the first time?




- Kovalev outlanded Ward.

- Kovalev landed more power shots than Ward in 7 out of
the 12 rds.

I fail to see how Ward did anything in the first fight to suggest he would "school" anyone in the rematch. He's gotten a ton of credit for essentially surviving 12 rounds against Kovalev.

[aboutfkntime]

NEW YORK Andre Ward doesn't know if he'll fight again after his rematch against with Sergey Kovalev, much less who he'd fight. But if the 33-year-old Ward does return to the ring following their light heavyweight championship rematch June 17 in Las Vegas, he won't move back down to the super middleweight division not even for a showdown with middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin. Ward was asked Monday about comments made recently by his trainer, Virgil Hunter, who told a reporter for a YouTube channel that Ward would be able to make 168 pounds again for a long-discussed fight against Golovkin.
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This makes sense, I believe him when he says that 175 isn't easy for him to make. He's relatively tall, old, and muscled.

We'll probably never get Golovkin Ward. I think that would be a hard one for Golovkin to win personally, but would have loved to see it.

Both fan bases can continue to to claim one avoided the other, but it's not really true.

Ward was asked if he would fight Golovkin next, after a long layover, and he said no. That's not unreasonable. To go from no fights to a top p4p would be pretty brutal.

Ward instead offered to fight in a year and a half with 2 interim fights (same thing he did with Kovalev). And Golovkin said no, which isn't unreasonable either. Golovkin doesn't have to move up weight and give up 2 middleweight belts (and a chance to fight Canelo or Floyd) just to meet Wards demands.

They both made reasonable decisions about their career paths, and a fight was never really that close. Honestly their fan bases are both wrong to insist one ducked the other.

that is completely incorrect

Ward wanted 1 tuneup, he approached Team Bullshht immediately following the Smith fight in June 2015 only for Team "anyone from 154-168" to demand a 164lb catchweight

it stated that in this very article, and here is the proof.....

July 2015

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258

and then again in September.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/roc-nation-gggs-team-turned-down-ward-36-minutes--96761

some people find it easy to forget this happened.....

"I think you can assume that a fight between Triple G and Andre Ward is a fight that people would love to see. It would be great for HBO. I think, for the most part, everyone was on board - with the exception of Triple G and his camp. How do you respond in 36 minutes with a 'no' - unless you had no intention of fighting Andre Ward.

"The only way you respond in 36 minutes is if you had no intention of ever fighting this guy. That's what 36 minutes tells you. Because if they did had a desire to fight Andre, and get in there with one of the best fighters in the world, they would have responded with 'thank you for your offer, we're going to discuss this with our fighter and get back to you.' That's typically how it's done. You don't respond in 36 minutes.

We didn't have the opportunity talk about any details. To come out and say who would be the A-side and talk about splits, the reality was - they said 'no' in 36 minutes."

"Right now, Andre Ward is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and they don't want nothing to do with him. I don't care what weight it is, I don't care what city it is, I don't care what country they fight in - they don't want nothing to do with the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. That's not on their agenda. They can continue to fight journeymen and protect his record and try to continue to build this invincibility aura that he currently has....."


only the very worst fanboys deny that ggg ducked Ward

helluva fighter, but it is what it is

[ThatDude44]

Music to Golovkin's. He can now beat BS Saunders and avoid the rematch with Jacobs, Charlo fight and Canelo and Ward.

[Shadoww702]

Not to stir the pot...but could you imagine if abel sanchez said some **** that contradicted ggg the way hunter did with ward? There would be haters blowing their loads all over the place.

Dirty Sanchez is a WALKING contradiction. Where have you been??? He always says the DUMBEST whacked sht out there.

"Abel Sanchez: No one at 160 lasts the distance with Golovkin"

Hell I remember when he said Andre Ward wouldn't even last 10 rounds with GGG.

[aboutfkntime]

Andre Ward ducking as usual. Scared to get that work yo!

Haha I'm just ****ing with you Floyd/Ward fanbois because you say such dumb **** all the time. But this does prove what I've been saying, that whatever bull**** Hunter wants to say, the truth is Ward is a true light heavyweight, and always was. He just drained down to 168 to weight bully slow, cherry picked fighters. Like Floyd before him, Ward's entire career is an illusion. Not a single clear win against an A-level opponent his entire career, same as Floyd except Floyd had A-level name opponents, just ones who were always drained or old or at some other huge disadvantage to where he never actually had to face a guy AT the A-level in the ring, even if they had the name on paper.

It all amounts to the same thing though, conning the fans into thinking you are better than you really are, so you never actually have to take the risk to prove it.

Credit to Ward for at least fighting Kovalev, but it's looking now like they heard something about him having drinking problems or whatever and that's the real reason they took the fight. They clearly knew something because Kovalev just came out and said he lost all energy by the 5th round of their fight, and felt like he had no energy or power after that. And that was before Ward's body attack even really started, so it wasn't that, Kovalev basically gassed all on his own from throwing punches.

So I don't care how skilled Kovalev is, if you're fighting an opponent who has no energy or power for the last 7 rounds, you should beat up and probably stop that guy. For Ward to not even legitimately beat that guy, and barely win any decisive rounds, just shows again how overrated he is.

As for Kovalev, I hope his training camp goes better, and we see the real Krusher again, but his last two fights he's had no energy, so... if at age 33 he can no longer fight 12 rounds strong, then he's no longer an A-level guy either, and he should be ripe for the taking. This is now a pick em fight because when both guys were fresh, it was obvious Kovalev was the more skilled, more powerful boxer-puncher, but since there's no way to predict whether Kovalev can even fight 12 rounds anymore, it's impossible to predict.

Hell, remember when Virgil kept saying "Dre, you're going to stop him," and how ridiculous we all thought it was? I mean hell it was ridiculous based on what was happening in the fight, but that's the thing, they clearly had inside knowledge, they clearly knew something we didn't, that this guy could no longer fight 12 rounds. So hell Ward really could stop him! Not based on power or skill, but it's like Marco Rubio stopping David Lemieux. We all know Lemieux is better, but if you don't have the stamina to last 12 rounds, you will have to stop before then at some point. Credit to Kovalev for gutting out the last 7 rounds and actually winning half of those rounds, which is crazy to think about, but I'm definitely not confident picking him in the rematch if I can only expect 5 rounds of energy from him. Even if he does great and wins 4 out of those rounds, and gets another knockdown, that's still 7 rounds left where all Ward has to do is outpoint a guy with no energy, and he will still win the fight 7-5, sort of like last time, just legitimately this time.

Then again, you can argue Ward couldn't even win rounds against a tired Kovalev, and Kovalev's stamina cannot possibly be worse this time than last time. But I just think picking anyone to win if they only have 5 good rounds in them is a dicey proposition. Hopefully, both fighters can come in great shape, and still be in their primes, which is when this fight should have happened.

it was courteous of you to commit your ******ity to print

[Nightfall]

after Ward beats kovalev again he's retiring. its over

[aboutfkntime]

Says the guy who sat out for 18 months and wanted to fight tune ups instead of fight next.
Biggest f@gg0t in boxing

at least he didn't get beaten by Danny Jacobs and then duck a bigmouth gypsy

[DuckAnDodge89]

Too easy, Ward Can't make 168.

Was I the only one that remembered all the catch weight fights against 30th ranked opponents before moving to 175?

[aboutfkntime]

Dirty Sanchez is a WALKING contradiction. Where have you been??? He always says the DUMBEST whacked sht out there.

"Abel Sanchez: No one at 160 lasts the distance with Golovkin"

Hell I remember when he said Andre Ward wouldn't even last 10 rounds with GGG.

ahahah i forgot all about that little gem

[Shadoww702]

Like he "schooled" him the first time?




- Kovalev outlanded Ward.

- Kovalev landed more power shots than Ward in 7 out of
the 12 rds.

I fail to see how Ward did anything in the first fight to suggest he would "school" anyone in the rematch. He's gotten a ton of credit for essentially surviving 12 rounds against Kovalev.

You NEW to boxing??? You score fights by the ROUND!!! You don't WAKE up like you did and ask to see the compubox numbers and then fill out your scorecard. Also Einstein look at the connect %. If 2 guys land the same amount of punches but the other guys threw more and couldn't hit the backside of a barn why would you give him extra points??? God your dumb.