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  • j.razor
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    #21
    Ward just did a 50 cent, "Didn't come easy won't go easy believe me!"

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    • Shadoww702
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      #22
      Originally posted by j.razor
      And then Ward says,"Sike!" Let's fight!
      Man that would be MESSED UP!!! GGG thinking he was safe to move up to 168 FINALLY and then Ward saying "GIVE me MY BELT" And TAKE your ass back down to 160...

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #23
        Originally posted by Simurgh
        No way Ward can make 168 healthy. His current natural weight is 175. Ward making 168 is like GGG making 154.. Can be done, but it's not his weight.

        that is exactly right, good call

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        • mathed
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          #24
          LMAO, will this dude and his trainer make up their minds?

          "I'm retiring", "I could beat a Klitschko", "Kovalev has to wait", "We'd go back to 168 for GGG if he moved up in weight".

          Every week it's something else. I realize he knows he received a gift but damn, this dude is off the rails.

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          • KillaCamNZ
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            #25
            Originally posted by Deletrious
            NEW YORK Andre Ward doesn't know if he'll fight again after his rematch against with Sergey Kovalev, much less who he'd fight. But if the 33-year-old Ward does return to the ring following their light heavyweight championship rematch June 17 in Las Vegas, he won't move back down to the super middleweight division not even for a showdown with middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin. Ward was asked Monday about comments made recently by his trainer, Virgil Hunter, who told a reporter for a YouTube channel that Ward would be able to make 168 pounds again for a long-discussed fight against Golovkin.
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            This makes sense, I believe him when he says that 175 isn't easy for him to make. He's relatively tall, old, and muscled.

            We'll probably never get Golovkin Ward. I think that would be a hard one for Golovkin to win personally, but would have loved to see it.

            Both fan bases can continue to to claim one avoided the other, but it's not really true.

            Ward was asked if he would fight Golovkin next, after a long layover, and he said no. That's not unreasonable. To go from no fights to a top p4p would be pretty brutal.

            Ward instead offered to fight in a year and a half with 2 interim fights (same thing he did with Kovalev). And Golovkin said no, which isn't unreasonable either. Golovkin doesn't have to move up weight and give up 2 middleweight belts (and a chance to fight Canelo or Floyd) just to meet Wards demands.

            They both made reasonable decisions about their career paths, and a fight was never really that close. Honestly their fan bases are both wrong to insist one ducked the other.
            You're making too much sense.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Hype Job
              What does Ward usually rehydrate to at 175 does anyone know?
              He used to only hydrate up 9-10 lbs when he was a Super MW.

              Kovalov usually always comes in around low 180's. Ward looked smaller then Kovalov. So I would say Ward comes in around 180-183???

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              • Boxing Logic
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                #27
                Andre Ward ducking as usual. Scared to get that work yo!

                Haha I'm just ****ing with you Floyd/Ward fanbois because you say such dumb **** all the time. But this does prove what I've been saying, that whatever bull**** Hunter wants to say, the truth is Ward is a true light heavyweight, and always was. He just drained down to 168 to weight bully slow, cherry picked fighters. Like Floyd before him, Ward's entire career is an illusion. Not a single clear win against an A-level opponent his entire career, same as Floyd except Floyd had A-level name opponents, just ones who were always drained or old or at some other huge disadvantage to where he never actually had to face a guy AT the A-level in the ring, even if they had the name on paper.

                It all amounts to the same thing though, conning the fans into thinking you are better than you really are, so you never actually have to take the risk to prove it.

                Credit to Ward for at least fighting Kovalev, but it's looking now like they heard something about him having drinking problems or whatever and that's the real reason they took the fight. They clearly knew something because Kovalev just came out and said he lost all energy by the 5th round of their fight, and felt like he had no energy or power after that. And that was before Ward's body attack even really started, so it wasn't that, Kovalev basically gassed all on his own from throwing punches.

                So I don't care how skilled Kovalev is, if you're fighting an opponent who has no energy or power for the last 7 rounds, you should beat up and probably stop that guy. For Ward to not even legitimately beat that guy, and barely win any decisive rounds, just shows again how overrated he is.

                As for Kovalev, I hope his training camp goes better, and we see the real Krusher again, but his last two fights he's had no energy, so... if at age 33 he can no longer fight 12 rounds strong, then he's no longer an A-level guy either, and he should be ripe for the taking. This is now a pick em fight because when both guys were fresh, it was obvious Kovalev was the more skilled, more powerful boxer-puncher, but since there's no way to predict whether Kovalev can even fight 12 rounds anymore, it's impossible to predict.

                Hell, remember when Virgil kept saying "Dre, you're going to stop him," and how ridiculous we all thought it was? I mean hell it was ridiculous based on what was happening in the fight, but that's the thing, they clearly had inside knowledge, they clearly knew something we didn't, that this guy could no longer fight 12 rounds. So hell Ward really could stop him! Not based on power or skill, but it's like Marco Rubio stopping David Lemieux. We all know Lemieux is better, but if you don't have the stamina to last 12 rounds, you will have to stop before then at some point. Credit to Kovalev for gutting out the last 7 rounds and actually winning half of those rounds, which is crazy to think about, but I'm definitely not confident picking him in the rematch if I can only expect 5 rounds of energy from him. Even if he does great and wins 4 out of those rounds, and gets another knockdown, that's still 7 rounds left where all Ward has to do is outpoint a guy with no energy, and he will still win the fight 7-5, sort of like last time, just legitimately this time.

                Then again, you can argue Ward couldn't even win rounds against a tired Kovalev, and Kovalev's stamina cannot possibly be worse this time than last time. But I just think picking anyone to win if they only have 5 good rounds in them is a dicey proposition. Hopefully, both fighters can come in great shape, and still be in their primes, which is when this fight should have happened.

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                • TheUptownKid
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                  #28
                  Truth has been spoken. Ggg is genuinely a smaller man than Ward and Ward diminishing himself for a potential fight with ggg, who has no one nearby his caliber on his record, would be asinine.

                  No disrespect to ggg or Ward, this fight just wasn't in the cards, and ggg isn't a big enough star to make ward make significant concessions

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                  • SeekDaGreat
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                    #29
                    Why should he? He's the big dog. He's the P4P1. Not Lil G or anyone else at 168lbs. They need to step up. Anyone who was anyone had their shot with Ward at that weight, he's moved on. You want a piece of him? Gain weight.

                    Ward would have mowed down Lil G at any weight. That's fairly obvious.

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                    • i'm a fun haver
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                      #30
                      Says the guy who sat out for 18 months and wanted to fight tune ups instead of fight next.
                      Biggest f@gg0t in boxing

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