Why do people hate Floyd so much?

[FrankieClutch]

Larry, you make this thread once every few months. Some love him, some hate him. He's your favorite fighter. Stop caring what other people think. There's one thing that is undeniable: he was the most talented and best fighter of the generation.

[HandsofIron]

LOL, so boxing is fighting huh? All I needed to see you post. Ignorance at its best.

Of course it's fighting, can't believe you posted that. Combat sport a.k.a. fighting sport.

[Johnny2x2x]

Floyd fans are two faced. They criticise PACs win over Barrera claiming Barrera wasnpt in prime and had wars with morales even though Barrera was on 8 fight win streak and PFP no1 or 2 depending g on who u spoke to.? Yet praise food for beati g past prime coming off o !y one good win v margarito.
Baldomir on long win streak? Yes, but it was only baldomir. Hardly Barrera is he. Floyd fans don't care about Barrera win streask do they?

What does this discussion have to do with Pacquaio? People give credit to Manny for beating Barrera. He lost to Morales and then avenged the loss even though Morales had trouble making weight.

I got news for people, there are zero fighters in the history of boxing who only took on prime fighters. Guys sometimes peak more than once too. For instance, Cotto at 154 was a beast, probably the best version of Cotto there was.

Floyd has an all time great fight card, and so does Manny Pacquaio. You can nitpick each of them, but the fact is that both Manny and Floyd fought champion after champion in their careers. One of them made it through undefeated and beat the other one head to head, that's the end of it.

[WesternChamp]

BostonGuy

Another one...POW!

another one what.

quit being a little biatch. aint nothing i said was racist.

[sicko]

The hate is never getting what they want which was to see him get knocked out! They Want To See The Fall! Many of them are still rooting for him to fall and lose all of his money or something crazy like that! So they cry about his style mostly because his style made it basically impossible for him to lose and some fans with this entitlement mentality feels like because they pay for a PPV they can TELL a Professional Fighter how he SHOULD FIGHT and Mayweather never took their Bait. Instead he did the total opposite and took their PPV Money and laughed all the way to the Bank while the people who hated him during his career are still hating him but they learned that all that hatred was for nothing because it never made the impact on Mayweather career that they hoped for.

What is funny is to see fans who hated Mayweather try to compare their favorite fighter

[Metho_4u]

maybe the fact that hes a woman beating piece of **** has something to do with it?

SRR was a woman beater, does that change what he did in the ring? If so, please tell me how. Ali was a draft dodger, arrogant, was likely the most controversial athlete of his time and then some...that change what he did in the ring?

Why don't you just go back to your golovkin shrine, pray to the god of rematches, and that he won't have to take one vs Danny and stfu....btw, it's all about unif...I mean mone....I mean busine...I mean "I'm not beeznessman"...I mean "this is beezness"...Ummmm ducking Saunders

[PRINCEKOOL]

Because he seems immune to failure!

[djtmal]

Take the "never fought an ATG in his prime" that we roll around NSB from time to time.

When discussing Floyd, we leave out the facts about the guys that chose not to or waited to fight him. We make up ridiculous things like "the offer was a duck move" and we place blame in one direction.

When a Floyd fan brings this up about other guys, then suddenly we have factual discussions that clarify why a fight didn't happen. No point-finances, logistics, politics, etc-is left out of the discussion.

There are other which we have discussed before.

I get it, people want to knock Floyd down because they do not like him. I get he isn't going to get the benefit of the doubt that others get. But creating ridiculous criteria and false narratives is a little much.

its not about knocking floyd down as much as it is putting his career in its proper perspective...if thats what larry is talking about, he's confusing people hating floyd, with people that just have an opinion that differs from his...

...never fought an all-time great fighter in his prime doesn't sound very denigrating nor is it ridiculous...its a fair across the board criteria when comparing all-time great fighters from different eras, not just floyd, but any fighter who claims to be the greatest, the best ever, etc...

and the ongoing debate on when guys chose to fight him, or who ducked who, all of that is dependent on what side of the fence you sit on, and the floyd guys just have to live with that...

floyd guys can give you blow by blow why all of these prime fighters ducked floyd and he should get a pass for that but it don't work like that, plus the counter from the critics will always be, that floyd ducked the division by taking an extended vacation in that critical time period where even his staunchest critics would have been hard pressed to debate that...plus, if all of these guys were scared to fight floyd, there was always the option to seek bigger challenges as guys like roy jones did...lets not act like there weren't any bigger challenges than marquez or shane or ortiz or berto...

when it comes to guys like sugar ray, all you have to say is prime hearns, prime benitez, slightly past prime hagler and duran and call it a day...with floyd, you say oscar or cotto or pac, the critics will say they are past prime, then the floyd guys need a couple more paragraphs to go through all the excuses its the other guys fault why the fights weren't made and never just hold their guy accountable...when the going get tough they resort to disrespectful comments and name-calling...

i think the floyd supporters just got to get some thicker skin...

[Johnny2x2x]

its not about knocking floyd down as much as it is putting his career in its proper perspective...if thats what larry is talking about, he's confusing people hating floyd, with people that just have an opinion that differs from his...

...never fought an all-time great fighter in his prime doesn't sound very denigrating nor is it ridiculous...its a fair across the board criteria when comparing all-time great fighters from different eras, not just floyd, but any fighter who claims to be the greatest, the best ever, etc...

and the ongoing debate on when guys chose to fight him, or who ducked who, all of that is dependent on what side of the fence you sit on, and the floyd guys just have to live with that...

floyd guys can give you blow by blow why all of these prime fighters ducked floyd and he should get a pass for that but it don't work like that, plus the counter from the critics will always be, that floyd ducked the division by taking an extended vacation in that critical time period where even his staunchest critics would have been hard pressed to debate that...plus, if all of these guys were scared to fight floyd, there was always the option to seek bigger challenges as guys like roy jones did...lets not act like there weren't any bigger challenges than marquez or shane or ortiz or berto...

when it comes to guys like sugar ray, all you have to say is prime hearns, prime benitez, slightly past prime hagler and duran and call it a day...with floyd, you say oscar or cotto or pac, the critics will say they are past prime, then the floyd guys need a couple more paragraphs to go through all the excuses its the other guys fault why the fights weren't made and never just hold their guy accountable...when the going get tough they resort to disrespectful comments and name-calling...

i think the floyd supporters just got to get some thicker skin...

Leonard went 1-1 vs a Prime Duran and 1-0 vs an out of prime Duran. He went 1-0 vs a prime Hearns and drew an out of prime Hearns that should have been a Hearns Win. Hagler fight was a huge controversy and Leonard had all the benefits in that fight. Was Benitez in his prime at almost 32? Not sure.

Like I said, you can pick apart the resume of any fighter and that includes both Sugar Rays.

We know Corrales was a prime undefeated HOF fighter when Floyd dismantled him. We know Cotto was the 154 lb Champ and was at his best weight when Mayweather beat him. Having just turned 32 was ODH more out of prime than Benitez or Hagler were when SRL fought them? Did Floyd fight ODH and give him all the advantages? Yes.

Castillo was at his prime and couldn't convince a lot of big name fighters to try him, Floyd fought him twice and won both. Hatton was also an undefeated Champ when Floyd destroyed him.

When should he have fought Canelo? Also another undefeated fighter. Canelo already had close to 45 fights, should Floyd have waited a couple years because he wasn't sure Canelo was in his prime after 43 professional fights without a loss? Say Canelo now beats GGG and goes undefeated the rest of his career, that Canelo win might be better than any win SRL had.

His resume holds up under scrutiny the same as SRL's and many other all time greats. You can nitpick them all and you can see the good in them all. I know some old timers who will pick apart Sugar Ray Robinson's record for you and they'll also say he ducked some guys.

Hold Floyd to the same standards as anyone else, but the problem is few do, they hold him to a standard way higher.

[Lester Tutor]

Why do people think couples never fight? What world is that? Practically Indians, Pakistanis, Arabs, Chinese... in those cultures it's almost a given that wives get slapped. So what if there are domestic disputes in the USA.. of course Floyd is going to be a wanted and exaggerated figure in a domestic dispute. Madonna and Rihanna has bruises... you think pictures would've been leaked on a high profile celeb sportsman for general media?