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  • #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
    Of course it matters. But its not the only thing that matters in a fight & more importantly in scoring a fight with how the rules of boxing work.

    I will say I think power punches landed matter more than any other compubox number. Generally you can come up with the winner probably 90%+ of the time just by looking who landed more power punches in excess of 3-5 shots in more rounds within the margin of error with the rounds not in excess of 3-5 punches anyway. Even though "power punches" is a bs term since its basically just any non-jab punch of course. It still seems to be the compubox stat that translates into winning rounds with judges more than any other.
    a completely inaccurate way of measuring who is landing punches matters? the numbers are not correct. the numbers are not correct. the numbes are not correct. that is the whole point. even if they were correct it doesn't judge power, cleanliness, etc...so yes it would be flawed in that way cept its not accurate so we dont even have to get to that step.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
      I see posters use it when it fits their agenda and this dismiss it when it doesnt...
      Give names.

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      • #13
        Not to me, I never use a counter to judge a fight with my eyes.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by daggum View Post
          hmm theres this guy named barry and he uses compubox as a reason floyd won but then in ward kovalev he has ward winning and never mentions compubox. have you met him larry?
          so which is it??

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          • #15
            Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
            Give names.
            you post on the exact same site i do...

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            • #16
              Compubox is extremely inaccurate.

              It counts punches as being landed that hit purely gloves, arms and elbows

              Compubox Logo
              Jabs Castillo Mayweather
              Landed 30 91
              Thrown 129 297
              Percent 23% 31%
              Power Punches Castillo Mayweather
              Landed 173 66
              Thrown 377 151
              Percent 46% 44%
              Total Punches Castillo Mayweather
              Landed 203 157
              Thrown 506 448
              Percent 40% 35%

              It has been a while since ive watched this fight but i remember thinking the castillo punch stats were way off. They were counting attempted body punches that were hitting arms.

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              • #17
                compubox only matters when you want it to. period. those screaming Kovalev got robbed use those numbers to back up their opinion but then turn around and say those numbers were wrong for mayweather/Pacquiao. its just something thats used when convenient. we can go on all day with the hypocrisy. people that say floyd beat castillo disregard compubox but use those numbers to prove floyd beat maidana. if you deny that you only use it to further your agenda you are full of ****.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by mathed View Post
                  Apparently not because Kov had a heavy edge over coWard and a KD yet Ward won a UD. He landed more total punches and more power punches as well as outlanded coWard in 7 out of 12 rounds.

                  So yeah, Compubox doesn't appear to count for schit sometimes.......just sayin.
                  Well don't look just at who won the round. Look at the margin they outlanded by. I take that into consideration when considering Compubox stats.

                  For instance of the 12 rounds 8 rounds had them within 3 total punches landed & a damn near record probably 6 rounds within 1 punch of each other. If 6 rounds only had 1 punch difference I think those rounds, in a vaccuum stats-wise of course, are up for grabs.

                  Even the way I consider compubox stats with power punches landed this fight is 1-1-10 with only 2 rounds being decided by 3 punches landed or more.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    a completely inaccurate way of measuring who is landing punches matters?
                    If its THAT inaccurate why does it tell the story of the fight more often then not? And I hardly care about how the stats look vs what some dummy in his moms basement came up with while watching the fight on slo mo for 3 days in a row while ODing on Mountain Dew.

                    Don't get it twisted doe I'm not delusional about what these stats mean & they aren't the end all be all of a fight like I said originally, but nothing is 100% like some cats think things should be or its a failure 100% of the time. There is middle ground or more often than not to take into consideration with anything.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                      Well don't look just at who won the round. Look at the margin they outlanded by. I take that into consideration when considering Compubox stats.

                      For instance of the 12 rounds 8 rounds had them within 3 total punches landed & a damn near record probably 6 rounds within 1 punch of each other. If 6 rounds only had 1 punch difference I think those rounds, in a vaccuum stats-wise of course, are up for grabs.

                      Even the way I consider compubox stats with power punches landed this fight is 1-1-10 with only 2 rounds being decided by 3 punches landed or more.
                      all this is based on the stats being right though...they arent. yes sometimes they can be close but sometimes they can be insanely off. if i was watching a fight live and only had one chance to count punches i wouldnt be able to get an accurate coutn so how can they? after reviewing a fight multiple times and slowing down tough to see moments we can get a much more accurate number. maybe not 100 percent but very close to it and theres always going to be some debate over what actually is a punch so thats why we can never reach a 100 percent consensus. is that push off to the back of he head really a punch...hmmm but thats why im confident when i say pac beat floyd, hopkins beat calzaghe, kov beat ward etc...ive done reviewed them all. i bet most people have not. its easier to take someones word for it especially when they have the result that you want.

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