Examples of "all time greats" exposed worse than GGG

[ruedboy]

Opinions vs Facts

Comparing boxers of different eras is a waste of time because it's all opinion and can never be proven.
To say Floyd is TBE or even best of his era is an opinion but to say he is 49-0 is a fact.
To say Golovkin is the best MW on the planet is an opinion but to say GGG is 37-0 is a fact.
Top guys like Mayweather and Golovkin always attract the haters and the critics who think their opinions rise to the level of facts.

[Scipio2009]

Please tell me you didn't just say Jacobs was his first real test.

who else on Golovkin's ledger are you considering a test? Kassim Ouma showed himself to be a world-level 154lber, but even then, he was doing so while being a small fighter at the weight.

Daniel Geale was a world-level fighter, but he didn't have any real pop behind his shots to show much.

Who else are you earnestly going to try and count as tests?

[Scipio2009]

If he was American or a few shades darker, he'd be rating Martin Murray the same way Ward fans rate Carl Froch.

Except that Carl Froch beat George Groves, beat Mikkel Kessler, beat Lucian Bute, beat an aging Glen Johnson, beat Arthur Abraham, narrowly beat Andre Dirrell, beat Jean Pascal, and flattened Jermain Taylor to save his skin in the 12th.

In every fight when Martin Murray has been put in with a world-quality fighter (at 160lbs or at 168lbs), he's come up short; narrowly in some fights, but still short.

don't fool yourself; nationality has nothing to do with the fact that Golovkin's had a world title for almost 5 years and his best opponent, up until the Daniel Jacobs fight, was a welterweight champion coming up the full two weight divisions.

[Scipio2009]

They all lost and or got exposed to WORSE OPPOSITION THAN DANNY JACOBS. You're naming accomplishments of those fighters. Big deal. GGG is about break hopkins record and become undisputed. Translation. It's okay for the old timers to lose and exposed to bums but not ggg. I got it.

... Monzon went 71-0-9 from when he took his last defeat. Hagler went 36-0-1 before he had his next defeat, narrowly to Sugar Ray Leonard. Trinidad was on a dynamite run until he went up too high in weight (38-0 at 154lbs or less; 2-3 above 154lbs).

why you continue to willfully ignore context is beyond me.

Golovkin is 35 years old, has been basically been fight at the same weight since he was 20 years old, and his opposition as a professional fighter has been the driveling ****s for the most part.

Daniel Jacobs was the first opponent that the boxing world could honestly say 1)could box his ass off, 2)had the pop to keep Golovkin serious, 3)was a full-sized middleweight, and 4)walked into the fight with the tools to legitimately beat Golovkin.

For the first time likely since he was boxing Andre Dirrell in amateurs, Gennady Golovkin stepped in with a legit fighter ... and edged out a 7-5 fight that could've gon either way.

get over yourself

[Madison Boxing]

great thread. peple make out on this site that fighters from the past never had off nights. some of the so called legends struggled against bums.

[kafkod]

why are you making excuses when you yourself said he could go to 168 and ko ****ing ward?

Jacobs looked like a better fighter against GGG than Ward looked against Kovalev, and he wasn't a lot smaller either. Danny asked for 3 extra months to prepare for GGG and he spent it at Ward's gym. Whatever they do during those extended training camps at that place, it clearly worked for Jacobs.

[Larry the boss]

the losses and draws he listed were to absolute bums for the most part.


do you know how to read?

What wins does GGG have better then those fighters?? why do you GGG fans feel the need to slam fighters who have clearly accomplished more then GGG?

[Larry the boss]

Jacobs looked like a better fighter against GGG than Ward looked against Kovalev, and he wasn't a lot smaller either. Danny asked for 3 extra months to prepare for GGG and he spent it at Ward's gym. Whatever they do during those extended training camps at that place, it clearly worked for Jacobs.

Kovalev is a top 3 p4p fighter..Jacobs is not..how can you even try to compare the 2?

[CinderelliMan]

I just feel if Jacobs was able to dance and avoid getting caught RJJ would be able to do same but unlike Jacobs he would be letting his hands go with alot more intent

[Larry the boss]

They all lost and or got exposed to WORSE OPPOSITION THAN DANNY JACOBS. You're naming accomplishments of those fighters. Big deal. GGG is about break hopkins record and become undisputed. Translation. It's okay for the old timers to lose and exposed to bums but not ggg. I got it.

What record?? title defenses?? oh you mean the ABC belt defenses that was watered down for Hopkins and really watered down for GGG since he was just a regular WBA title holder while Sturm was the super champ?? Monzon had 14 LINEAL title defenses and atleast Hopkins was FULL CHAMP in ALL HIS IBF TITLE DEFENSES...Ya'll water everything down for GGG and it is really sad how yall still brag about it..