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  • Bronx23
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    #31
    Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff
    You scored the fight for either guy??? SMH You don't see a problem with that statement? You can say a fight was close, but how can you score it for "either guy"? Are you scoring it twice? I guess you'll never be wrong if you score it for "either guy". This is why "fans" complain about judging. They don't understand it.
    Thank you I hate that as well. if you're gonna say you came up with the same score for both fighters you're basically calling it a draw then. It's simple, either one guy lost and one guy won or it was too close to call so it's a draw. That "it coulda gone to either guy" ***** annoys me.

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    • Bjl12
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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum
      i hear this nonsense narrative but when i watch the fight its ward initiating all the clinches so what are you seeing? ward would wrap his arm aroudn kov first and sometimes kov would respond by clinching him up so ward couldnt hold and hit him. thats not clinching. thats responding to being clinched. please pay more attention.
      Umm what? Worse logic than a dog's ******* if you think Ward was clinching. It was almost all Kovy especially early on. That's why he had more success early in the fight.

      Clinching gets attributed to Ward because of his past - and he does usually hold a lot - but in this case it was mostly Kov and that's indisputable.

      Only wannabe white supremacists feel otherwise. Catch an emotion you PMS kid

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      • Bronx23
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        #33
        I thought kov won the 1st time I watched live but I just knew they were gonna give it to ward on the scorecards. Watching it again just recently my opinion hasn't changed. Kov was out boxing him early, dropped him, hurt him, outlanded him throughout the fight. Ward had a hell of a comeback but to me he was digging himself out of a hole. He never at any point dominated kov and even in the end when kov was fading in the end the rounds were toss ups. Ward looked flashier and more relaxed in the second half and Kovalev looked gassed but ward was never able to dominate or able to seriously hurt or even wobble Kovalev at any point. I just couldn't find enough rounds to give ward the win. Hopefully this time around its more clear because I like both guys and it just didn't seem right for Sergey the champion to lose his belt in fight that close. You wanna beat the champ you gotta dominate the champ

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        • Gillie
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          #34
          Originally posted by SkillspayBills
          Want and expect Ward to win more decisively and then move down for GGG.
          Do u think that Ward vs GGG will happen before Canelo vs GGG? That could be a distinct possibility.

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          • Tobi.G
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            #35
            If the rematch will be as Close as the first fight, Kovalev gets the w (rightfully so) and they can fight for a third time. I just hope Kovalev crushes Ward in the rematch to get this over with and Kovalev can move forward with his career.

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            • Metho_4u
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              #36
              Originally posted by argentinabox22
              I hope Kovalev wins again, real killer. he's doing some mike tyson trash talking style "hey ward, i will **** you till you love me ******!"
              You're a h0mo

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              • Metho_4u
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                #37
                Originally posted by future hendrixx
                if fights were judged based on looks then why we need judges? pacquiao looked marked up after clottey so in your world clottey was robbed. right?
                And his brain wrapped up after Marquez

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                • hitking
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  i hear this nonsense narrative but when i watch the fight its ward initiating all the clinches so what are you seeing? ward would wrap his arm aroudn kov first and sometimes kov would respond by clinching him up so ward couldnt hold and hit him. thats not clinching. thats responding to being clinched. please pay more attention.
                  That's bull****. Kovalev initiated the clinch damn near every time Ward got inside on him, which was smart.

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                  • hitking
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bronx23
                    I thought kov won the 1st time I watched live but I just knew they were gonna give it to ward on the scorecards. Watching it again just recently my opinion hasn't changed. Kov was out boxing him early, dropped him, hurt him, outlanded him throughout the fight. Ward had a hell of a comeback but to me he was digging himself out of a hole. He never at any point dominated kov and even in the end when kov was fading in the end the rounds were toss ups. Ward looked flashier and more relaxed in the second half and Kovalev looked gassed but ward was never able to dominate or able to seriously hurt or even wobble Kovalev at any point. I just couldn't find enough rounds to give ward the win. Hopefully this time around its more clear because I like both guys and it just didn't seem right for Sergey the champion to lose his belt in fight that close. You wanna beat the champ you gotta dominate the champ
                    Kovalev didn't outland him throughout the fight. Kovalev landed a total of 10 more punches. But he outlanded Ward by 13 punches in the lopsided second round. Which means Ward actually out landed Kovalev by three punches in the other 11 rounds.

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                    • hitking
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff
                      You scored the fight for either guy??? SMH You don't see a problem with that statement? You can say a fight was close, but how can you score it for "either guy"? Are you scoring it twice? I guess you'll never be wrong if you score it for "either guy". This is why "fans" complain about judging. They don't understand it.
                      Its easy to score a close fight for both guys. I've done it several times. I've gone and watched a fight from a decade ago, and came away with a different score than I did a decade earlier. Judging fights is very subjective. Most people favor the guy throwing the most punches. Most people favor head shots over body shots. Most people don't factor defense into their scoring at all. Even though its one of the criteria you're supposed to judge on. So yes, its very easy to judge a close fight either way after watching it multiple times.

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