Do you think Sergio was clean?

[Willy Wanker]

I doubt it, but anything is possible. Martinez was always ripped, he wasn't just ripped for the Pavlik fight.

Even if Martinez wasn't clean, Pavlik wasn't either. I'm sure he had a bottle of whiskey before he laced up his gloves.

So they were evenly matched.

[Ray*]

Very good question, I know Martinez was a keen cyclist so he has in built endurance but I also have doubts about his career, especially after his knee injuries/surgeries etc towards the end of this career. He couldn't have got through those surgeries, training camps without a little "Help"

[hrt3333]

He turned into a muderous power puncher and his athleticism was being compared to Roy all of a sudden close to 40 but keep playing ******

Oh please he was a sharp speedy puncher who came up late, was kicking ass on HBO then his confidence grew after he put Paul Williams on his ass.

[Elroy The Great]

question should be was there ever proof that he was dirty.

[deanrw]

Any fighter who is in their mid 30's, who is not noticeably slowing down and still at the highest level, is getting help staying there.

Fighters in the 70's and 80's were considered shot by then. The past 25 years guys are staying on top at a more advanced age. It is not evolution, it is not training methods. It is enhancements.

[Elroy The Great]

Any fighter who is in their mid 30's, who is not noticeably slowing down and still at the highest level, is getting help staying there.

Fighters in the 70's and 80's were considered shot by then. The past 25 years guys are staying on top at a more advanced age. It is not evolution, it is not training methods. It is enhancements.

thats where proof comes in. people have been busted before.

[Cheek busting]

If I had to guess, I'd say 80% of all top-level boxers are not "full natty brahs."

But again, I'd hate to actually try and name and shame, without one actually testing positive.

One boxer who I feel pretty comfortable with naming and shaming, doe, is Marquez starting at the 4th Pac fight, and beyond.

Just too many signs were there. I think he was probably on a low dose/cycle period of Trenbolone, or D-bal.

And I feel pretty comfortable with saying Floyd Mayweather, post-Marquez fight, was on a low dose/cycle of Winstrol and maybe stacked with some Clen.


Remember: Eat CLEN.... TREN hard, ****** give up, and you'll reach your goals.

[soul_survivor]

Once I discovered the steroids world involving boxing and fighting sports in general, I lost the love I had for it.

For example, Sergio was one of my favourites. Now I just can't look at his MW reign without thinking he was doing what he was doing because he had been doping.

The fight with Pavlik, I see it as a fight between a clean man and a doper. So unfair.

I know he used to train like a "body builder", focusing a lot on strength and weight lifting, but does that give you that kind of body? or was he enhancing himself with legal methods such as creatine and other supplements?

What do you think? pics:

Care to provide evidence of Martinez doping?

[*TonyMontana*]

I'll take it a step further, I think he built his physique up because he is gay. I don't say that to bash him at all. I just think he prefers men (based on mannerisms, private personal life, absence of women, his "roomate", etc) and gay men tend to be more body-conscious.

Martinez,Margarito and Cotto have been involved in a love triangle for years

Cotto was recently pushed out the picture....

Which is why he beat the shlt outta Martinez

Love hurts

[Szef]

He was roided to the gills. Why do you think he looked the way he did against Cotto who mandated random blood?

When a fighter has a style that relies on athleticism as much as Sergio's did, they can only fight on the highest level for so long.