Why is Khan still seen as such a good fighter?

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  • New England
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    #51
    Originally posted by Szef
    off topic, but you're one of the biggest ward fans on here so i'm curious - how do you think the rematch will play out..?

    i think ward thought he'd be able to tdo better boxing from the outside and trained for that kind of a fight in camp. they probably thought, "why get close to a guy with that kind of power when you can beat him from the outsdie.?"

    but i think that's wrong, and they realized it at nad to adjust late. kovalev fights very well from outsdie. won the jabbing contest, landed the right hand that put ward down badly.

    i think they'll train to take the fight to kovalev, which is honestly how i would have trained him from the start. kovalev's power comes at arm's length. ward's better suited to put his head in kovalev's chest and fight dirty. if he does that again he wins.

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      #52
      Originally posted by larryxxx.
      what?????????? man you got issues
      you hate ******s and Asians, dont lie now

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      • FrankieBruno
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        #53
        He's a good fighter pitted up against certain styles

        He schooled Collazo, Paulie, Zab, Devon, and Maidana to name but a few

        At the same time he struggled against Algieri, Diaz and a juiced up Petterson

        and then there was his losses, particularly to Garcia, which was looking like a another schooling session until Garcia timed that hook

        Khan is a good boxer when he is turned on and executes his game plan, but he is horrible under pressure, a lot of boxers are to be fair. Khan can't fight on the back foot, well he can, but his fights then tend to turn into brawls


        Khans resume is a lot better than Terrence Crawfords, lets be real Larry
        Last edited by FrankieBruno; 04-06-2017, 10:52 AM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by krazyn8tive
          Khan being a big draw is fake news. It's a myth, nothing more.
          Correct.

          Khan lost his appeal in the UK years ago, probably after the Garcia fight. He would only be a draw there against Brook and most would be hoping he got KO'd (again).

          He really traded on the "Olympic medallist" thing for a while but those days are gone. Then it was largely off the back of the support of the Pakastani/****** fanbase but he has been exposed so many too many times at the top level even that has fallen by the wayside.

          His "I fight anyone" has been exposed by his ongoing and ever changing reasons why he won't fight Brook.

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            #55
            Originally posted by New England
            oscar had an iron chin and was only stopped by pacquiao when he was done, and by hopkins, a huge middleweight who would later fight at LHW.

            he fought better fighters than khan and in a better era than khan, including floyd in his prime, mosley in his prime, fernando vargas, pacquiao in his prime, whitaker when he was past it but still a top fighter, was jobbed against trinidad, ike quartey, etc. oscar de la hoya is a first ballot hall of famer based on his resume. and also his ability. he was a heck of a boxer with an outstanding chin and left hook.

            khan's best wins are limited maidana, never was devon alexander, past it zab judah. got knockout losses to garcia, canelo, and a one round loss to bredis freaking prescott. their careers are not much alike other than to say that they both benefitted from marketing and had a lot of backing from the networks. oscar backed his **** up, man. that guy could ****ing fight. amir was a front runner. if you could handle his speed he could be not only beaten, but beat up and knocked out.
            Both lost their biggest fights when they decided to step up to the top tier of their respective times.

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              #56
              Well, he beat Maidana, and when Floyd asked fans who his next opponent should be, they chose Khan over Maidana...Floyd chose Maidana.

              There are plenty of fighters out there who can testify to Khan's skills. He has speed, power, and good footwork. He's been KO'd three times, twice by fighters who have legit KO power. He was holding his own boxing well before his KO losses. He has some decent wins over Maidana, Malignaggi, Alexander and even Judah who was outboxed and looking for a reason to quit.

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                #57
                Originally posted by krazyn8tive
                Both lost their biggest fights when they decided to step up to the top tier of their respective times.


                oscar got jobbed against trinidad. he also beat whitaker when he was still a top 5 p4p fighter. vargas is also a step above anybody khan was able to beat or who khan even fought. not sure if you were watching boxing at the time but he was a terrific fighter. just happened to be in an era with de la hoya and trinidad, two of the hardest punchers you'll ever see, and he was moved into those fights when he was a very young man.



                i've also demonstrated that the top tier of oscar's time was better, and he fought them from 130-135 all the way to middleweight. it's just not a fair comparison. khan was a frontrunner with an awful chin. de la hoya was a terrific fighter who fought in a great era and against everybody.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                  He's a good fighter pitted up against certain styles

                  He schooled Collazo, Paulie, Zab, Devon, and Maidana to name but a few

                  At the same time he struggled against Algieri, Diaz and a juiced up Petterson

                  and then there was his losses, particularly to Garcia, which was looking like a another schooling session until Garcia timed that hook

                  Khan is a good boxer when he is turned on and executes his game plan, but he is horrible under pressure, a lot of boxers are to be fair. Khan can't fight on the back foot, well he can, but his fights then tend to turn into brawls


                  Khans resume is a lot better than Terrence Crawfords, lets be real Larry

                  you guys shouldn't even be allowed to post on an american website.

                  schooled maidana- actually ended up reeling around the ring and benefitted hugely from joe cortez being on the GBP take.


                  was schooling danny for all of two rounds until danny hit him *sniff.* you're not allowed to hit our amir!!! and then he hit him again. wahhhh

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                    #59
                    I agree, personally I think Khan barely cracks the top 15 ww rankings. Every time someone tries to defend him, they have to go back 5 or more years to do it. If you have to go that far back, that means he hasn't done a damn thing recently. Notice how anxious he was fight Danny when he was champ. Now not a peep now Thurman is champ, at least by comparison. I've always known Khan was the biggest p*ussy in the sport even more than post-Lara Canelo.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by New England
                      oscar got jobbed against trinidad. he also beat whitaker when he was still a top 5 p4p fighter. vargas is also a step above anybody khan was able to beat or who khan even fought. not sure if you were watching boxing at the time but he was a terrific fighter. just happened to be in an era with de la hoya and trinidad, two of the hardest punchers you'll ever see, and he was moved into those fights when he was a very young man.



                      i've also demonstrated that the top tier of oscar's time was better, and he fought them from 130-135 all the way to middleweight. it's just not a fair comparison. khan was a frontrunner with an awful chin. de la hoya was a terrific fighter who fought in a great era and against everybody.
                      I'll give you the sweet pea fight. He garnered much of his admiration beating a faded Mexican legend in JCC. But against Trinidad, Mosley x2, let's face it, sturm beat the dog**** out of delahoya and got jobbed, Hopkins, PAC...the top tier guys beat him. But I will give Oscar his due, he faced all on comers. Which is such a conundrum because he doesn't expect the same from his stable of fighters now that he's on the promoting side of the isle.

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