Comments Thread For: Crawford Can't See Fight Between Him & Lomachenko Happening

[Kigali]

I say Lomachenko will be anyone from 140 and down. He seems to be improving at a rapid pace. If he uses Arriza he will beat anyone up to 154

That's the rabies talking

[-PBP-]

Who is even discussing this fight?

[-Kev-]

Isnt Loma a 126lber? The hell would Crawford want him for. Is Loma talking about going to 140?

You're 1 year too late, Lomachenko has had two fights at 130lbs, holds the WBO 130 pound title, will have his 3rd 130 fight on Saturday, is ranked #1 Super Feather by Ring and TBRB and lastly, he is talking about moving up to fight 135 to fight Garcia. And the way they are going at it back in forth that fight will happen sooner rather than later.

Who is even discussing this fight?

This looks like one interview that was broken down into different comments threads. Remember the thread of him saying Ward is #1 and he's #2 P4P? This is probably from that interview. He was probably asked for his take on the best fighters and he was also asked if he would fight Lomachenko.

[mick1303]

GGG just went life-n-death with a fellow middleweight. And there's a solid number of folks that thought he lost.

As for Ward "reaching down two classes to fight a smaller guy." As I said in my post about Crawford-Lomachenko. Loma gets a pass in my book because he's already shown a willingness to move up in weight and challenge himself. Just like Ward, who moved up and fought the biggest, baddest light heavyweight out there. GGG refuses to move up and fight anybody with a pulse.

As for the Mayweather-Ward thing. Floyd and Andre got in a pissing contest in the media. I've forgotten what it was about. Ward was on some "talk ****, back it up" type ****. Nobody took it seriously. It was a super middleweight/light heavyweight arguing with a welterweight.

On the other hand, Ward-GGG is a realistic fight, just like Floyd-GGG is a realistic fight. And since you're talking natural size. Ward and GGG are closer in size than Floyd and GGG.

All this is bs and your post is full of smoke and mirrors. For the simple fact that GGG stated back then that he was willing to go to 154 for Floyd. Where Floyd at the time held a belt. When Ward was calling GGG out, he did not do such thing. Instead he wanted GGG to move to his (at the time) division - 168.

[Sheldon312]

P4P Lima would school Crawford.

[Derranged]

I don't see it happening either unless it happens years from now and Crawford simply freezes at 147.

[Gillie]

What he said makes sense. He clearly respects Lomachenko's skill set which is pretty cool but he is a realist I suppose. They probably won't meet up. I am also glad that he acknowledged Salido's tactics, something that many on this site tend to ignore or forget.

[-Kev-]

That's because Pacquiao is a natural lightweight who is such a legendary boxer, he is able to fight guys much bigger than him at 147, while Crawford is a natural welterweight who weighs 160 on fight night, but has campaigned at 135 and 140 so far in his career in order to be a weight bully and beat up smaller guys. He is still a talented fighter, but we won't know how great he is until he steps up, and if he were ever to do the equivalent of what Pacquiao has done, and go fight at middleweight or at least 154, I'm not sure he would be able to stand toe to toe with bigger guys and win wars against them the way Pacquiao has.

So yeah, Crawford fights at a lower weight than Pacquiao, but he's still way bigger than Pacquiao. That just tells you two things though. One, it tells you how remarkable Pacquiao's run at welterweight has been, and two, it tells you that Crawford is taking the path of least resistance so far, and not daring to be great the way Pacquiao did. So Crawford should never complain about not getting the love of the fans Pacquiao does because so far he has been unwilling to take on the same challenges Pacquiao did.

Unfortunately, Crawford is too big for Lomachenko, otherwise that would be a great fight. If Pacquiao can still make 136 or 137 at his age after putting on extra muscle to compete at welterweight, then Pacquiao-Lomachenko actually could happen, and that would be an amazing matchup.

I think Lomachenko's skill set and ability to run through the weight classes and become a pay-per-view star is higher than Crawford's, so if I'm Bob Arum and I had to choose to pass the torch to either Crawford or Lomachenko with a Pacquiao fight, I'd definitely choose Lomachenko. Plus that would be an incredible matchup. Lomachenko is a boxer but he will also fight. He stays in the pocket. He doesn't circle the ring looking not to engage like Crawford does. He doesn't have a huge size and reach advantage over Pacquiao like Crawford does. Pacquiao-Crawford could be a complete dud of a fight like May-Pac was.

But Pacquiao-Lomachenko on the other hand could see the return of the explosive Pacquiao for the first time in five years. Pacquiao would be fighting a smaller man for the first time in probably almost a decade. We could have knockdowns both ways. The amount of combination punching, and the quality of speed and angles and explosive punching, would be historic in many ways. Whereas with Pacquiao-Crawford, yes the amount of speed in the ring would still be great, but it would just be Crawford using his longer, younger legs to circle the ring all night and pot shot. It wouldn't be anything like the Pacquiao-Marquez type of legendary matchup that Pacquiao-Lomachenko would be except with way more speed from Lomachenko (but less size and power for Pacquiao to worry about too, so a more aggressive Pacquiao).

Arum is getting older, but if he is still at the top of his game, he will stop trying to make Pacquiao-Crawford, and start trying to make Pacquiao-Lomachenko at 136 or 137 instead. That is the fight, and if Lomachenko can move up another 7 pounds and give an amazing fight against Pacquiao, he will win Fighter of the Year, and #1 pound for pound status, and receive way more hype and bring in way more fans and money than if Crawford uses his size to outbox Pacquiao in a slow, low activity fight.

Pacquiao can't make 135, stop it.

At 135lbs, Pac was already rehydrating 12lbs on fight night. At 130 he was rehydrating 16lbs.





Manny Pacquiao is a natural 140 pounder. On fight night, he's about the same size as the average 140 fighter. Hatton had a mere 4lbs on him on fight night, and Hatton was considered a "massive" JWW, even in his own words.

Postol weighs 148 on fight night, same as Pac did vs Hatton. Jessie Vargas was also known to weigh 148 at 140. Crawford being a bit on the bigger side, weighs 152, as much as Hatton used to. JMM weighs 148 on fight night, and he cannot make 135 anymore. Neither can Crawford, or Postol. In the Pac vs Bradley 147 rematch, Pac weighed 151lbs to Bradley's 152lbs.

So yeah, Pac is not a "natural lightweight".

[Kigali]

P4P Lima would school Crawford.

No.....not at all.

Bud can fight inside.

Loma has 0 inside game.

[JASON SHAW]

Yeah with Kovalev, GGG, and Loma they are trying to lure in a certain demographic.

Lomachenko and ggg would be wayyy more popular if they tried to market him to all demographics! I would love to see Lomachenko on pbc but he is tied to top prank with a slave contract for years!