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  • gmc_rfc_06
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    #11
    He's correct here.

    Weight makes this fight entirely unrealistic and borderline ridiculous. Also, yes, Salido cheated to get that win (should have been DQ'd 5x over).

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    • boxingitis
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      #12
      Lomachenko has Sosa, Berchelt, Davis, and then he can move to 135 to fight Mikey, Linares, Flanaggan.

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        #13
        I'm a superfight guy. So I'd love to see Crawford-Lomachenko. They're arguably the two best fighters in the world. So what boxing fan wouldn't wanna see them go at it.

        That said, Lomachenko is in no way obligated to take on a task like Crawford. Crawford is naturally a much bigger guy. Not only a much bigger guy. He's a much bigger guy that can fight. Plus, in only eight fights, Lomachenko is already a legitimate two division world champion. And he's probably gonna try another division real soon. He's more than proven he's willing to step up and take chances.

        As for Crawford, I commend him on his stance on this. Supposed elite fighters today are all too willing to reach down and take on a smaller fighter. But when it comes to moving up, they sing a different tune. When asked about Errol Spence, Crawford admitted that Spence might be too big for him. But he also man'd up and admitted that Lomachenko might be too small. That's a far cry from a clown like GGG that's all too willing to fight a small guy like Floyd, but wants no part of Andre Ward.

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        • Progrssive_Jedi
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          #14
          Salido did Foul Loma, but Ward's Entire Style (success) is Premised on Fouling

          Crawford should not fight Loma. This dude is a WW squeezing to 140, just like Chavez Jr. squeezed to MW.

          As for fouling, no one fouls like Ward and Crawford has him 1# P4P. Ward fouls in every way but hitting you straight in the nuts. I hope Kov straight up hits Ward with an accidental elbow. The Son of God will need resurrecting if someone hits him like he fouls others.

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            #15
            Originally posted by hitking
            I'm a superfight guy. So I'd love to see Crawford-Lomachenko. They're arguably the two best fighters in the world. So what boxing fan wouldn't wanna see them go at it.

            That said, Lomachenko is in no way obligated to take on a task like Crawford. Crawford is naturally a much bigger guy. Not only a much bigger guy. He's a much bigger guy that can fight. Plus, in only eight fights, Lomachenko is already a legitimate two division world champion. And he's probably gonna try another division real soon. He's more than proven he's willing to step up and take chances.

            As for Crawford, I commend him on his stance on this. Supposed elite fighters today are all too willing to reach down and take on a smaller fighter. But when it comes to moving up, they sing a different tune. When asked about Errol Spence, Crawford admitted that Spence might be too big for him. But he also man'd up and admitted that Lomachenko might be too small. That's a far cry from a clown like GGG that's all too willing to fight a small guy like Floyd, but wants no part of Andre Ward.
            You would try to criticize ggg. GGG just beat a much bigger guy.

            Do you even realize the hypocrisy all over this post. Ward is all too willing to reach down two classes to fight the much smaller ggg.

            And don't get it twisted, Ward called Floyd out, then called him Lil-Floyd.

            Crawford is bigger than Floyd, he'd fight him.

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            • Luilun
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              #16
              I say Lomachenko will be anyone from 140 and down. He seems to be improving at a rapid pace. If he uses Arriza he will beat anyone up to 154

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              • hitking
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                #17
                Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                You would try to criticize ggg. GGG just beat a much bigger guy.

                Do you even realize the hypocrisy all over this post. Ward is all too willing to reach down two classes to fight the much smaller ggg.

                And don't get it twisted, Ward called Floyd out, then called him Lil-Floyd.

                Crawford is bigger than Floyd, he'd fight him.
                GGG just went life-n-death with a fellow middleweight. And there's a solid number of folks that thought he lost.

                As for Ward "reaching down two classes to fight a smaller guy." As I said in my post about Crawford-Lomachenko. Loma gets a pass in my book because he's already shown a willingness to move up in weight and challenge himself. Just like Ward, who moved up and fought the biggest, baddest light heavyweight out there. GGG refuses to move up and fight anybody with a pulse.

                As for the Mayweather-Ward thing. Floyd and Andre got in a pissing contest in the media. I've forgotten what it was about. Ward was on some "talk ****, back it up" type ****. Nobody took it seriously. It was a super middleweight/light heavyweight arguing with a welterweight.

                On the other hand, Ward-GGG is a realistic fight, just like Floyd-GGG is a realistic fight. And since you're talking natural size. Ward and GGG are closer in size than Floyd and GGG.

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                  #18
                  I thought Crawford was truthful while being respectful at the same time.

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                  • siablo14
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JASON SHAW
                    or how they never ask ggg about ward.... Its the same old kkk plantation mentality at hbold... Thats why they are dying and Showtime is thriving!
                    Yeah with Kovalev, GGG, and Loma they are trying to lure in a certain demographic.

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                    • satiev1
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                      That's because Pacquiao is a natural lightweight who is such a legendary boxer, he is able to fight guys much bigger than him at 147, while Crawford is a natural welterweight who weighs 160 on fight night, but has campaigned at 135 and 140 so far in his career in order to be a weight bully and beat up smaller guys. He is still a talented fighter, but we won't know how great he is until he steps up, and if he were ever to do the equivalent of what Pacquiao has done, and go fight at middleweight or at least 154, I'm not sure he would be able to stand toe to toe with bigger guys and win wars against them the way Pacquiao has.

                      So yeah, Crawford fights at a lower weight than Pacquiao, but he's still way bigger than Pacquiao. That just tells you two things though. One, it tells you how remarkable Pacquiao's run at welterweight has been, and two, it tells you that Crawford is taking the path of least resistance so far, and not daring to be great the way Pacquiao did. So Crawford should never complain about not getting the love of the fans Pacquiao does because so far he has been unwilling to take on the same challenges Pacquiao did.

                      Unfortunately, Crawford is too big for Lomachenko, otherwise that would be a great fight. If Pacquiao can still make 136 or 137 at his age after putting on extra muscle to compete at welterweight, then Pacquiao-Lomachenko actually could happen, and that would be an amazing matchup.

                      I think Lomachenko's skill set and ability to run through the weight classes and become a pay-per-view star is higher than Crawford's, so if I'm Bob Arum and I had to choose to pass the torch to either Crawford or Lomachenko with a Pacquiao fight, I'd definitely choose Lomachenko. Plus that would be an incredible matchup. Lomachenko is a boxer but he will also fight. He stays in the pocket. He doesn't circle the ring looking not to engage like Crawford does. He doesn't have a huge size and reach advantage over Pacquiao like Crawford does. Pacquiao-Crawford could be a complete dud of a fight like May-Pac was.

                      But Pacquiao-Lomachenko on the other hand could see the return of the explosive Pacquiao for the first time in five years. Pacquiao would be fighting a smaller man for the first time in probably almost a decade. We could have knockdowns both ways. The amount of combination punching, and the quality of speed and angles and explosive punching, would be historic in many ways. Whereas with Pacquiao-Crawford, yes the amount of speed in the ring would still be great, but it would just be Crawford using his longer, younger legs to circle the ring all night and pot shot. It wouldn't be anything like the Pacquiao-Marquez type of legendary matchup that Pacquiao-Lomachenko would be except with way more speed from Lomachenko (but less size and power for Pacquiao to worry about too, so a more aggressive Pacquiao).

                      Arum is getting older, but if he is still at the top of his game, he will stop trying to make Pacquiao-Crawford, and start trying to make Pacquiao-Lomachenko at 136 or 137 instead. That is the fight, and if Lomachenko can move up another 7 pounds and give an amazing fight against Pacquiao, he will win Fighter of the Year, and #1 pound for pound status, and receive way more hype and bring in way more fans and money than if Crawford uses his size to outbox Pacquiao in a slow, low activity fight.
                      Crawford shows up fight night weighing 8 lbs less than ggg. But he's top 3 p4p according to some people.

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