Comments Thread For: Crawford: I Won't Get Credit for Beating Pacquiao AND Lomachenko

[Bronx2245]

There is a bias. GGG fanboys are just as ridiculous as the haters. It's a dumb comparison and not sure why GGG is in the discussion but Burns and Jacobs aren't comparable (Jacobs is clearly a better fighter, esp at this stage), but then again the nature of wins wasn't (Crawford won easily nearly by shut out, GGG won a solid 7-5/8-4). Brook, I don't really rate that as a great win for GGG. Brook is a damn good fighter though and the Porter win was impressive. It's a weird way to discredit GGG by discrediting Brook's clear win over Porter.

I think Crawford is better than GGG overall, but the resumes and recent resumes I can see why one would put GGG ahead in a mythical pound for pound sense. I personally rate Crawford at the #2 spot (Lomachenko being my #1 pick).

Where would you put Mikey Garcia? Garcia is 36-0 with 30 KOs, won titles at Feather, Jr. Light, and Lightweight. Crawford is 30-0, with titles Lightweight and Jr. WW. How do you justify Lomachenko being ranked above Garcia and Crawford, when he is 7-1?

[GhostofDempsey]

Not only was Brook a blown-up WW, look at his 3 previous fights! Even his win over Porter was not impressive. Jacobs is talented but so was Ricky Burns and Gamboa. When Postol schooled Matthysse, he was "a beast!" When he gets schooled by TC, "he's nobody." For some reason Crawford and Mikey Garcia can't get the same love that GGG and Loma get, and it's ****ing ridiculous!

You forget that Brook was walking around at 175 prior to the GGG fight? He was a very large welter and doesn't belong there. We'll see what he is made of after the Spence fight.

You comparing Burns to Jacobs? Burns doesn't belong in the discussion. Him and his 11KOs at the time were never a threat to Crawford. His biggest win was against Beltran, Jacobs KO'd Quillin in one round and was by far the bigger man in the ring versus GGG. Gamboa had a legit resume coming into the fight but he was outgunned, too small, giving up four inches and at least ten pounds or more. He was at a physical disadvantage, whereas GGG was at a physical disadvantage versus Jacobs.

Mikey Garcia doesn't get the love yet because he is another one who drains himself two weight classes and then blows up way bigger than his opponents on fight night. Once he starts beating some big names he can start calling the shots. Until then, he needs to move his ass up to 140 and fight Broner and Crawford instead of calling out smaller opponents.

If you can't see why Loma gets so much love then no one can help you see the light. He is exciting, he has taken on big challenges from his debut, and he is winning by closing the show against feared opposition like Walters. He's not doing just enough to survive or squeak out a UD, he's bringing it. More than we can say for Crawford who chose to skate past Postol instead of sealing that win with a stoppage.

[chrisJS]

Where would you put Mikey Garcia? Garcia is 36-0 with 30 KOs, won titles at Feather, Jr. Light, and Lightweight. Crawford is 30-0, with titles Lightweight and Jr. WW. How do you justify Lomachenko being ranked above Garcia and Crawford, when he is 7-1?

I don't read too much into the Salido bout. 2nd pro fight, the weight B.S, the incompetent referee display, the low blows and I still felt Lomachenko won more rounds. It's almost like that fight was like Lomachenko getting 10-15 fights pro experience in one night.

Mikey has done very little in the last 3 years. I thought he looked poor against Burgos and struggled to cut the ring down on him, then ducked Gamboa and went missing. I think he's an excellent offensive technician however, just hasn't done much lately and isn't as rounded as Lomachenko and Crawford. I have him just outside the top 5.

Holyfield didn't have a "great record" on paper, but give me 36-3 Evander over 40-0 Wilder. ANY DAY. Marquez record isn't as pristine as Sven Ottke's but I know Marquez is vastly superior. Records aren't everything you've got to look at the actual fights, circumstances, who you fight and when etc;

[filup79]

He's right in a sense, when Floyd fought the likes of Mosely, Oscar, Hatton and Marquez, they were old and past their prime but when Manny fought some them after, he got all the credit in the world. Just like Manny gets all this credit for beating Morales and Barrera even though they were already done and past their prime. Keep in mind that after beating Manny in his 50th fight, Morales never beat a top fighter after that. Manny was Barrera's 62nd and 70th fight, Barrera never beat a top fighter unless you count an under achieving Rocky Juarez. Both Morales and Barrera were on the way out but they never bring that up and give Manny all the credit in the world while they criticize other fighters and nit pick their wins.

[ShoulderRoll]

Pacquiao won't even get in the ring with you, champ. He's off picking cherries.

Just keep improving and mastering your craft and winning. F the haters.

[chrisJS]

He's right in a sense, when Floyd fought the likes of Mosely, Oscar, Hatton and Marquez, they were old and past their prime but when Manny fought some them after, he got all the credit in the world. Just like Manny gets all this credit for beating Morales and Barrera even though they were already done and past their prime. Keep in mind that after beating Manny in his 50th fight, Morales never beat a top fighter after that. Manny was Barrera's 62nd and 70th fight, Barrera never beat a top fighter unless you count an under achieving Rocky Juarez. Both Morales and Barrera were on the way out but they never bring that up and give Manny all the credit in the world while they criticize other fighters and nit pick their wins.

Barrera never beat a top fighter? Morales just to name one was a top fighter. He beat many top fighters.

[Bronx2245]

You forget that Brook was walking around at 175 prior to the GGG fight? He was a very large welter and doesn't belong there. We'll see what he is made of after the Spence fight.

You comparing Burns to Jacobs? Burns doesn't belong in the discussion. Him and his 11KOs at the time were never a threat to Crawford. His biggest win was against Beltran, Jacobs KO'd Quillin in one round and was by far the bigger man in the ring versus GGG. Gamboa had a legit resume coming into the fight but he was outgunned, too small, giving up four inches and at least ten pounds or more. He was at a physical disadvantage, whereas GGG was at a physical disadvantage versus Jacobs.

Mikey Garcia doesn't get the love yet because he is another one who drains himself two weight classes and then blows up way bigger than his opponents on fight night. Once he starts beating some big names he can start calling the shots. Until then, he needs to move his ass up to 140 and fight Broner and Crawford instead of calling out smaller opponents.

If you can't see why Loma gets so much love then no one can help you see the light. He is exciting, he has taken on big challenges from his debut, and he is winning by closing the show against feared opposition like Walters. He's not doing just enough to survive or squeak out a UD, he's bringing it. More than we can say for Crawford who chose to skate past Postol instead of sealing that win with a stoppage.

So your issue is boxers who "drain down" to make weight! You have eliminated 50% of all active fighters. We'll see how long you hold on to that standard. Have a blessed day!

[Bronx2245]

I don't read too much into the Salido bout. 2nd pro fight, the weight B.S, the incompetent referee display, the low blows and I still felt Lomachenko won more rounds. It's almost like that fight was like Lomachenko getting 10-15 fights pro experience in one night.

Mikey has done very little in the last 3 years. I thought he looked poor against Burgos and struggled to cut the ring down on him, then ducked Gamboa and went missing. I think he's an excellent offensive technician however, just hasn't done much lately and isn't as rounded as Lomachenko and Crawford. I have him just outside the top 5.

Holyfield didn't have a "great record" on paper, but give me 36-3 Evander over 40-0 Wilder. ANY DAY. Marquez record isn't as pristine as Sven Ottke's but I know Marquez is vastly superior. Records aren't everything you've got to look at the actual fights, circumstances, who you fight and when etc;

To each his own. I think it's disrespectful to even consider a man with 8 fights P4P#1. I love Errol Spence Jr., but I'm not going to put him in the Top 5 P4P, even after he whoops Brook's azz! Longevity has to count for something!

[marikudo]

He won't get much credit for beating Lomachenko and would go through hell if he loses (and it's quite possible tbh). But not sure about Pac, Manny still has a name, it's the only thing that left of him though

Huh! Manny will beat all the WW's even at his age. All of the WW's right now are below Pac's level. They should have been superstars now if they are really that good. Most of them are bums.

[pasawayako]

hahahhaha. pac can beat this clown with one hand behind his back.