Who are the top 10 heavyweights based on their talent rather than record?

[juggernaut666]

What does any of this ******ed gibberish have to do with anything i said?
lol @ 'clearly beating chisora', practically everyone said Whyte lost & we're talking about a shot to **** chisora.


but of course you say he won so it makes your cuckhold hero AJ's win over him look better, lol you are so pathetic, you are literally in love with AJ, just admit you want to suck him off, we wont judge you bud.

It has everything to do bc you claimed its a lopsided fight ,you moron . On top of that you stated Whyte is garbage so you must think the same for Parker if we break down his career too ,right you dope ?


Whyte hasnt even had a FULL training camp since the Joshua fight ....whats Parkers excuse for his below avg . performances ?

[mlac]

It has everything to do bc you claimed its a lopsided fight ,you moron . On top of that you stated Whyte is garbage so you must think the same for Parker if we break down his career too ,right you dope ?


Whyte hasnt even had a FULL training camp since the Joshua fight ....whats Parkers excuse for his below avg . performances ?

I was commentating on Whyte and you immediately start blabbering on about a totally different fighter for no apparent reason. You are unable to have a boxing conversation without appearing to be a total lunatic

[juggernaut666]

I was commentating on Whyte and you immediately start blabbering on about a totally different fighter for no apparent reason. You are unable to have a boxing conversation without appearing to be a total lunatic

No its bc you have severe limitations about the sport and tear down another boxer whos actually the better skilled fighter while claiming Parker is this and that when hes clearly the very least the same level . I would also say Helenius with the 3 week sparring sessions with Joshua would make him a bigger threat against Whyte than pillow fisted Hughie who arguably also defeated Parker .

Nothing lunatic about that unless you're a ****** which i know the answer to that one !

[billeau2]

Dude whyte is absolutely ****ing terribile. seriously he lost to a shot chisora and got a gift, his technique is HORRIBILE. his best win is a fat out of shape helenius on less than 2 weeks notice, and he still was close to getting knocked out in round 2 before helenius gassed out.

He only lost to Joshua and looked good during that fight, he moves rather fluidly for a big man and has good combination punching ability, good whiskers, and a good tactical understanding of angles.

A lot of these guys are developing, I believe Whyte was a kickboxer for some time and had to make adjustments. With respect to style being a determination for difficulty Whyte is evasive enough to cause problems for some of the other guys in the division.

You have to look at skills and potential. Whyte also has had some issues come up. That is no excuse but it tells me that he could be coming into his best fights... Whyte has skills that are pretty obvious. I also would put him as a greater danger right now than Parker... Parker has some talents as well but really has to develop as a puncher... he does not have the mobility to fight like he did against Hughie.

I have no problem if you disagree, but sometimes it seems like some guys don't look at the fighter in question, maybe you did.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

When did AJ suddenly become a really SKILLED fighter������
He has poor footwork
Zero head movement
Average punch variation
Leaky defence
No real fluidity to his movement
The list goes on and on...
He makes up for this with his size, power, speed, explosiveness etc. But they are athletic/physical attributes NOT technical skills!
You fanboys are pathetic...������
The most skilled HW is Ortiz by a mile, best footwork, punch variation, solid textbook defence etc. Povetkin is pretty skilled as well.
This shows how poor the HW division is in terms of skill

[Jewish-Reptile]

Scott

I have no problem doing research that might take some work to help a fellow member...but if you want to talk s hit about the man, the very least you can do is LOOK UP HIS RECORD!

Then... watch a few of his fights, his fight with Joshua for example.

I saw his fight against Helenius, I also happened to see how Duhaupas faired against Helenius a good common opponent to gauge them against, not only the Helenius win but the Wilder loss he showed great combination work coming in behind the jab putting solid work together. Duhaupas is a top ten fighter, Whyte is not.

[billeau2]

I saw his fight against Helenius, I also happened to see how Duhaupas faired against Helenius a good common opponent to gauge them against, not only the Helenius win but the Wilder loss he showed great combination work coming in behind the jab putting solid work together. Duhaupas is a top ten fighter, Whyte is not.

Duhaupas has some skills. I don't know how you determine who is "top ten" as you put it. I hope you don't think watching one common opponent, one or two fights, is enough to make a blanket statement about the skill of a fighter... Also if you look at both guy's records it appears as though when Duhaupas stepped up in competition he could not win... Unless one thinks Charr is a top level fighter, I do not and even so... Duhaupas lost to Povatkin, Helenius and Wilder.

Whyte beat Helenius, Chisora and Minto... Now not saying record is everything but the records show a trend where one guy stepped up and saw succesful, even against a common opponent. The Joshua fight was a good fight for Whyte. he hurt his shoulder but had some success against Joshua. He showed that he could be effective with his combos and that he had an excellent chin in that fight.

But I would not say that the French heavyweight you mention is not skilled, he fought well, and even at 36 years of age, because of the division and the age heav yweights peak, he might have more success at the top level...Just has not happened yet.

[juggernaut666]

Duhaupas has some skills. I don't know how you determine who is "top ten" as you put it. I hope you don't think watching one common opponent, one or two fights, is enough to make a blanket statement about the skill of a fighter... Also if you look at both guy's records it appears as though when Duhaupas stepped up in competition he could not win... Unless one thinks Charr is a top level fighter, I do not and even so... Duhaupas lost to Povatkin, Helenius and Wilder.

Whyte beat Helenius, Chisora and Minto... Now not saying record is everything but the records show a trend where one guy stepped up and saw succesful, even against a common opponent. The Joshua fight was a good fight for Whyte. he hurt his shoulder but had some success against Joshua. He showed that he could be effective with his combos and that he had an excellent chin in that fight.

But I would not say that the French heavyweight you mention is not skilled, he fought well, and even at 36 years of age, because of the division and the age heav yweights peak, he might have more success at the top level...Just has not happened yet.

Duhaupas best attribute is taking punches he was losing before Helenius started taking deep breaths . Helenius is highly overated and had one of the biggest robbery wins ive ever seen against Chisora . The reason why he lasted 12 with Whyte bc he didnt engage like he usually does and being in Joshuas camp for 3 weeks probably didnt hurt .

Duhaupas and Helenius arent close to top 10 material and neither is Christian HAMMER ? lol

Only fools like Weiland believe such bc of off center RANKINGS yet IGNORE an actual realistic one where Whyte is ranked ONE by the WBC ? I'll remind you that poster thinks Parker is more DANGEROUS thsn Klitchko yet ridicules Parker as a bum ,serious drug use has to be in effect here no other explanation ? l

[billeau2]

Duhaupas best attribute is taking punches . Helenius is highly overated and had one of the biggest robbery wins ive ever seen against Chisora . The reason why he lasted 12 with Whyte bc he didnt engage like he usually does and being in Joshuas camp for 3 weeks probably didnt hurt .

Duhaupas and Helenius arent close to top 10 material and neither is Christian HAMMER ? lol

Only fools like Weiland believe such bc of off center RANKINGS yet IGNORE an actual realistic one where Whyte is ranked ONE by the WBC , i'll remind you that poster thinks Parker is more DANGEROUS thsn Klitchko yet ridicules Parker as a bum ,serious drug use has to be in effect here no other explanation ? l

Jugs I don't know Duhaupas...I was giving Scott the benefit of the doubt lol. Im more than happy to let you debate that one with him.

Yes Helenius is overated...saw that fight with Chisora and indeed... Agreed on the top ten list. Serious drugs? PROBABLY!! Drugs that cause one to avoid critical thinking and looking at material that my 12 year old could find on Youtube!!

There is a tendency for people to overlook Whyte and some of it comes from Wilder's attitude towards that fight. He better not try to look past Whyte. Again. it would take the average IQ and curiosity to look and see how Whyte has performed in only losing to Joshua so far... Something to the effect of "gee what is Wilder talking about, lets see what this guy has done.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Duhaupas has some skills. I don't know how you determine who is "top ten" as you put it. I hope you don't think watching one common opponent, one or two fights, is enough to make a blanket statement about the skill of a fighter... Also if you look at both guy's records it appears as though when Duhaupas stepped up in competition he could not win... Unless one thinks Charr is a top level fighter, I do not and even so... Duhaupas lost to Povatkin, Helenius and Wilder.

Whyte beat Helenius, Chisora and Minto... Now not saying record is everything but the records show a trend where one guy stepped up and saw succesful, even against a common opponent. The Joshua fight was a good fight for Whyte. he hurt his shoulder but had some success against Joshua. He showed that he could be effective with his combos and that he had an excellent chin in that fight.

But I would not say that the French heavyweight you mention is not skilled, he fought well, and even at 36 years of age, because of the division and the age heav yweights peak, he might have more success at the top level...Just has not happened yet.

Make your mind up, did Duhaupas win or lose versus Helenius. Your post is confusing, I really shouldn’t get into tit for tat but I’m bored and it’s likely I won’t be getting head again for another four hours so what the hell here goes.

Duhaupas fought Povetkin for a career high purse, days earlier Povetkin was tested positive for PED’s, the fight afterwards when testing was more stringent not turns out Povetkin’s power and stamina wasn’t as telling when he fought Rudenko. Like it or not the Duhaupas loss is tainted as Ortiz’s was against Kayode, you following here ?

Duhaupas on merit is a top ten foghter imo, I care none of its widely accepted, their are ratings within TBRB I don’t agree with yet I give more consideration to their rankings than anyone else’s.

See here’s the point, I’m not a sheep I don’t get an erection when I see AJ’s bicep unlike you and your girlfriend Jugs, it is what it is. You’re both a great to have around, I respect that the forum needs guys like you to generate traffic after all the site is about traffic: