Castillo-Corrales III: For more than just a Belt

[Mr. Ryan]

Good stuff Asian, you do the writing and ill provide the visuals

and the co main event and undercard... (i designed this poster)

Can't get anymore entertaining than that

[VanesBoxing]

Can't get anymore entertaining than that

Yup, just imagine what the fights will be like.

Im goin with Chico Corrales on this one by KO before 8.

Same for Vic Darchinyan.

[wmute]

OK Wmute, I'm not even gonna front. I have a sincere dislike for Jose Luis Castillo because of what happened in the rematch. Corrales did gain an unfair advantage in the first fight by spitting out the mouthpiece, but it didn't constitute cheating because he was penalized. However, Castillo's failure to make weight gave him an unfair advantage because you can't legislate it within the ropes. He was ridiculously stronger than Corrales in the rematch and it seriously tainted the integrity of the fight.

1 point vs getting the W, so he did not cheat??? are you serious? so anyone is allowed to think castillo did not cheat because he had to pay a fine and did not get the belt? they both did their ****, and got some result and some penalty out of it.

ANYWAY I dont care about it, the question is trite.
I bothered writing to you, because you want to be a boxing writer, and I wanted to point out to you that something you wrote was a bit far from unbiased. don't want you to be another Frank Lotierzo, mate.

You mentioned castillo's "unfair advantage" twice, you wrote that "corrales battled back manfully" or something like that, you completely omitted the fact that castillo actually had something which looked more like a plan than just moving forward. A writer puts his opinions in what he writes (like you just did in this post), but should not hide them in a biased presentation (or omission) of facts, otherwise it is Lotierzo-style.

Every great fight needs some controversy to make it memorable, so people talk about it and are mesmerized by the what ifs. We saw it with the black bottle incident in Pryor Arguello I, we saw it with the Richard Steele's **** up in the first Chavez-Taylor fight, we've seen it almost every great fight. It adds mystique to the fight. Castillo's unfair advantage just ****ed the fans over and almost no matter what occurs in the third fight, the second fight will still remain the stinker of the trilogy.

INDEED, if corrales is not damaged goods, the 3rd fight is going to be better than the 2nd.

[Mr. Ryan]

1 point vs getting the W, so he did not cheat??? are you serious? so anyone is allowed to think castillo did not cheat because he had to pay a fine and did not get the belt? they both did their ****, and got some result and some penalty out of it.

ANYWAY I dont care about it, the question is trite.
I bothered writing to you , because you want to be a boxing writer, and I wanted to point out to you that something you wrote was a bit far from unbiased. don't want you to be another Frank Lotierzo, mate.

You mentioned castillo's "unfair advantage" twice, you wrote that "corrales battled back manfully" or something like that, you completely omitted the fact that castillo actually had something which looked more like a plan than just moving forward. A writer puts his opinions in what he writes (like you just did in this post), but should not hide them in a biased presentation (or omission) of facts, otherwise it is Lotierzo-style.



INDEED, if corrales is not damaged goods, the 3rd fight is going to be better than the 2nd.

Its cool. Every week after I pick the wrong guy, I get 30 or so emails from people dissing me and ****. So what would be your alternative then for Corrales? DQ? When a fighter breaks the rules, he is penalized a number of points until he gets disqualified. Those are the rules, and if he gains an advantage in the process, its like that sometimes. But as far as disrespecting the sport by not even entertaining the thought of making weight is simply a slap in the face of boxing.

And I'm sorry for wasting your time and making you bother to write me. I know it must be so hard dealing with ignorance, huh?

[wmute]

Its cool. Every week after I pick the wrong guy, I get 30 or so emails from people dissing me and ****. So what would be your alternative then for Corrales? DQ? When a fighter breaks the rules, he is penalized a number of points until he gets disqualified. Those are the rules, and if he gains an advantage in the process, its like that sometimes. But as far as disrespecting the sport by not even entertaining the thought of making weight is simply a slap in the face of boxing.

And I'm sorry for wasting your time and making you bother to write me. I know it must be so hard dealing with ignorance, huh?

No, point deduction was fine with me. Just like the fine for castillo's not making the weight was fine with me.

Nowhere in my post you can read that I consider writing to you a waste of time. and nowhere in the post you can read about how hard I find it to deal with ignorance. A waste of time is debating about mouthpiece/weigh in issues.

btw. I disagree with both your prediction for taylor-wright (actually for this one I agree with the prediction of the outcome, but not with the breakdown of the fight) and corrales-castillo, but you can be sure you won't get any email from me after the fight, if I get it closer than you. In fact props for expressing your thoughts in an organized manner.

[DiegoFuego]

OK Wmute, I'm not even gonna front. I have a sincere dislike for Jose Luis Castillo because of what happened in the rematch. Corrales did gain an unfair advantage in the first fight by spitting out the mouthpiece, but it didn't constitute cheating because he was penalized. However, Castillo's failure to make weight gave him an unfair advantage because you can't legislate it within the ropes. He was ridiculously stronger than Corrales in the rematch and it seriously tainted the integrity of the fight.

Every great fight needs some controversy to make it memorable, so people talk about it and are mesmerized by the what ifs. We saw it with the black bottle incident in Pryor Arguello I, we saw it with the Richard Steele's **** up in the first Chavez-Taylor fight, we've seen it almost every great fight. It adds mystique to the fight. Castillo's unfair advantage just ****ed the fans over and almost no matter what occurs in the third fight, the second fight will still remain the stinker of the trilogy.

I feel the exact same way. Corrales cheated and got docked a point just the same way Trinidad cheated against Vargas. COUNTLESS GREAT FIGHTS HAVE THESE ELEMENTS. The point is Corrales won the fight. Can you discredit his win for spitting out his mouthpiece to buy time? In other words, punish him for being smart? After all, Freitas did the same thing to Corrales, so Corrales was using something done to him to help himself. If spitting out the mouthpiece was such a huge advantage, then why didn't Freitas come back to beat Corrales? Because Corrales has HEART and pulled an AMAZING comeback, that's why. Nobody takes credit from Trinidad for beating Vargas, so lay off Corrales.

Castillo outright cheated in the rematch. I had no ill-will towards Castillo until he cried all the way up until the rematch, and I believe he cheated on purpose. HIS ****ING CORNERMAN TRIED TO LIFT THE SCALE WITH HIS FOOT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. They never planned on making weight, and everyone knows it, whether they admit it or not.

I hope your prediction comes true, Asian Sensation, not only for Corrales, but for justice.

[Mr. Ryan]

We all know that they are big guys who are having problems making 135, but atleast we know Corrales can make it. Castillo hasn't made the weight limit since the first fight with Coralles, and I have my doubts that he can make the weight. If the fight does occur, which Corrales says it won't if Castillo doesn't make weight, Corrales will have a strength advantage.

Castillo really is not a Lightweight. Castillo is a Junior Welterweight, maybe even a welterweight. To call him a lightweight is almost an outright lie. He is a very strong man at 135, he is a force. But he struggles mightily to make weight, and in his last 2 fights with Corrales and Reyes, he weighed in at 138. He will be severely weakened and drained for the fight, and it will impact his performance.
Ryan ******** is a weekly syndicated columnist. If you wish to contact him, you can reach him at mc_rson@yahoo.com .

Who called it? I don't remember, can someone refresh me?

[ferocity]

Castillo-Corrales III: For more than just a Belt
By Ryan "The Asian Sensation" ********, Photo courtesy Sweet Science
Team Pinoy
5-22-06



On June 3, 2006, we will be treated to the final chapter of one of the legendary trilogies of all time. Jose Luis Castillo, 54-7-1 (47 KO), and Diego "Chico" Corrales, 40-3 (33 KO), square off on Showtime, they will be fighting for the right to say they truly were the better fighter. Not to mention the WBC and Ring Magazine Lightweight Championship.

Last May, Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo met in a fight that was anticipated to be fight of the year. Little did anyone know it would become fight of the decade. After back and forth action that had both men shaking off shots that would drop welterweights, Castillo knocked down Corrales twice in the tenth round and appeared to be on his way to the win of a lifetime. After the second knockdown, Corrales spit out his mouthpiece and was deducted a point that would become inconsequential. Corrales, rejuvenated from the reprieve, battled back manfully and stopped Castillo on the ropes in later in the tenth round.

The media adulation that ensued made the rematch one of the most highly anticipated fights in years. However, when both fighters weighed in, Castillo failed to make the 135 pound limit. After a second weigh in, and a corner man being ejected and suspended for trying to rig the scales, they agreed to fight at a catch weight of 147 the next day. From the opening bell, Castillo controlled the action and his strength advantage seemed to be insurmountable. After winning the first three rounds big, Castillo blasted Corrales out in the fourth with a picture perfect left hook.

After the rematch, boxing fans were left with a sour taste in their mouth. After being treated to one of the greatest fights in boxing history, the rematch was cut short by the unfair advantage that Castillo brought into the ring. So after a postponement due to a Corrales rib injury, they will meet again to complete the trilogy.

We all know that they are big guys who are having problems making 135, but atleast we know Corrales can make it. Castillo hasn't made the weight limit since the first fight with Coralles, and I have my doubts that he can make the weight. If the fight does occur, which Corrales says it won't if Castillo doesn't make weight, Corrales will have a strength advantage.

Castillo really is not a Lightweight. Castillo is a Junior Welterweight, maybe even a welterweight. To call him a lightweight is almost an outright lie. He is a very strong man at 135, he is a force. But he struggles mightily to make weight, and in his last 2 fights with Corrales and Reyes, he weighed in at 138. He will be severely weakened and drained for the fight, and it will impact his performance.

The action will be back and forth, much like it was last year in their first encouter. Castillo will dominate on the inside, capitalizing on Corrales' defensive deficiencies. Corrales, as he has foolishly done in the first two fights with "El Temible", will elect to trade on the inside, instead of fighting from a distance as he did with Joel Casamayor in their second fight. Castillo will get the better of the exchanges early, even though he is known to be a slow starter.

Towards the mid and late rounds, Castillo will begin to weaken and the exchanges will more frequently favor Corrales. In the 11th round, Castillo will be badly fatigued and may even go down in this round. The fight will be stopped again and Corrales will solidify his status as the lightweight champion.

Whatever the outcome of the fight, surely it will be worth the price of admission. The Corrales-Castillo trilogy will go down as one of the greatest trilogies of all time, alongside Barrera-Morales and Gatti-Ward. Its fights like these that the sport needs to regain its marketability. No matter what occurs, it will be fun watching it happen.

Ryan ******** is a weekly syndicated columnist. If you wish to contact him, you can reach him at mc_rson@yahoo.com .

i aggree with wmute, you have to learn to not be biased towards one fighter. your dislike for castillo is well evident and i didn't even read the whole article.

[Mr. Ryan]

i aggree with wmute, you have to learn to not be biased towards one fighter. your dislike for castillo is well evident and i didn't even read the whole article.

No, I just disapprove of Castillo's failures to make weights. He obviously doesnt take the weight issue seriously. This is exactly how I saw the fight, had Castillo made weight, going down. There is no significant bias in here. Its weird, because only fans of the fighters that I say unfavorable things about say that I'm biased. I just speak my mind regardless. I had my article about Hatton-Collazo attacked by a couple of Collazo fans because I was giving props to both fighters, so I analyze every claim case by case. I personally don't see anything wrong with this article, it looks fine to me.

[ferocity]

No, I just disapprove of Castillo's failures to make weights. He obviously doesnt take the weight issue seriously. This is exactly how I saw the fight, had Castillo made weight, going down. There is no significant bias in here. Its weird, because only fans of the fighters that I say unfavorable things about say that I'm biased. I just speak my mind regardless. I had my article about Hatton-Collazo attacked by a couple of Collazo fans because I was giving props to both fighters, so I analyze every claim case by case. I personally don't see anything wrong with this article, it looks fine to me.

sound like a newbie when you say castillo is not really a lightweight cause he is so strong at 135, you should have taken into account that he is older, and has had plans to move up in weight but his fights with corrales have kept him at lightweight

i think if you try to even out the props to both fighters a bit more it would look better, also you point out one bad you have to point out the other bad of the other fighter.

you keep attacking castillo really overlooked corrales mouth spitting and an unbiased writer would not call their 2nd fight a sour taste in the fans mind, unless you are a corrales fan, but then that would make you biased toward your fighter.

both fights were great, any unbiased fan can tell you this. some of my friends who watched the fight with me on ppv, jumped out of their set as did everybody else in the room, and after words it was just how great a fight it was, then after a few beers, then it was oh, castillo had an advantage, oh i could tell corrsles wasn't as strong. and this is bs cause i felt corrales was the strong fighter but less resistant to castillos punch because of their first fight.

to say castillo would of gone down if he'd made weight is unbelivable.