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  • Originally posted by Buckfever View Post
    Wow this is pretty crazy. IMO the only one who beats Golovkin is Ward, because he's a much better version of what Jacobs brought. All the stocky guys, Lemieux, Canelo, Stevens etc get KO'd by Golovkin. It's fine though, it would be great if Canelo was that good. I just think it is a mistake for his career. Think of what his record looks like 5 years from now without Golovkin. And without a potential beat down.
    Ward is Jacobs x100 + will get dirty. If Canelo gets KO'd why not take the $15,000,000 for such an easy fight???

    Canelo will by fine. GGG's name is turning into mud. The mighty doesn't look invincible anymore. They just LIED to Saunders AGAIN and he's BLASTING SHT2 in the media with FACTS. Tough times to be a GGGTard

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    • Originally posted by Raonic View Post
      Lol DLH is being a baby here. You knew BEFORE the fight that this PPV would do 150-200K. Why come out with this **** now.

      Give the guy the PPV split and call it a day.
      So if Oscar knew this ppv was going to perform terribly then why didn't GGG realize this and take the offer on the table before those numbers came out? There ******ity on passing up an offer hoping to get more later on and it blowing up in their face with shyt ppvs is not a reason to pay somebody more then what their ppvs say they are worth. How about K2 just take what golden boy giving them which is a career payday more the he can get fighting anyone else and call it day? They keep over pricing themselves banking on GGG improving his status of a draw to get more money but under performing and hurting his stock.

      GGG worth today is less then it was BEFORE the Jacobs fight. Yet he passed on the offer. Newsflash if he don't accept now BEFORE the Chavez fight when those numbers come out and blow GGG\Jacobs out the water his offer will be less. It's no one's fault that GGG has idiots running his career costing him millions and losing big fights.
      Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-01-2017, 06:24 PM.

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      • Originally posted by hitking View Post
        You don't need a size advantage to beat GGG. Some people think Brook kinda exposed holes in GGG. But it was the Monroe fight that showed me GGG isn't what his fans, and a good portion of the boxing community think and want him to be. Handspeed is what gives GGG issues. He's also not very good in a phone booth. And he surprisingly isn't very good when guys move laterally in both directions. Jacobs was able to have more success than Monroe and Brook because he had the power to keep GGG honest. Canelo doesn't have the foot speed of Jacobs. But he can be pretty good at slipping punches on the inside. He's a better defensive fighter than GGG. He also has a handspeed advantage over GGG. The key is gonna be can Canelo hurt GGG. If he can, GGG is probably gonna be in trouble. Because GGG is slow and robotic as hell. So Canelo is gonna be able to counter him. If GGG is reluctant to throw the way he was against Jacobs at times. Canelo's gonna touch him up.
        My analysis as well.

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        • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
          So if Oscar knew this ppv was going to perform terribly then why didn't GGG realize this and take the offer on the table before those numbers came out? There ******ity on passing up an offer hoping to get more later on and it blowing up in their face with shyt ppvs is not a reason to pay somebody more then what their ppvs say they are worth. How about K2 just take what golden boy giving then which is a career payday more the he can get fighting anyone else and call it day? They keep over pricing themselves banking on GGG improving his status of a draw to get more money but under performing and hurting his stock.

          GGG worth today is less then it was BEFORE the Jacobs fight. Yet he passed on the offer. Newsflash if he don't accept now BEFORE the Chavez fight when those numbers come out and blow GGG\Jacobs out the water his offer will be less. It's no one's fault that GGG has idiots running his career costing him millions and losing big fights.
          Exactly but that's coming from an RTARD who still has MAJOR stock in Sears and JC Penneys...

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          • Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
            $15,000,000 will be more than ANY deserving split. How much of a split do you think they should split???

            33% GGG 33% Canelo and 34% Oscar??? So WHO should take less??? Oscar or Canelo to GGG since he wants at LEAST 40%???
            My point is that if DLH is going to use the 170K PPV buys and the split as the reason to hold up the fight, then he should've said that to begin with.

            Everyone knew GGG-Jacobs would never draw high PPV numbers. Why only come out now when you should've known GGG/Jacobs would do 200K or less. Either don't do a verbal agreement or honour it regardless of the results of the fight.

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            • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
              So if Oscar knew this ppv was going to perform terribly then why didn't GGG realize this and take the offer on the table before those numbers came out? There ******ity on passing up an offer hoping to get more later on and it blowing up in their face with shyt ppvs is not a reason to pay somebody more then what their ppvs say they are worth. How about K2 just take what golden boy giving them which is a career payday more the he can get fighting anyone else and call it day? They keep over pricing themselves banking on GGG improving his status of a draw to get more money but under performing and hurting his stock.

              GGG worth today is less then it was BEFORE the Jacobs fight. Yet he passed on the offer. Newsflash if he don't accept now BEFORE the Chavez fight when those numbers come out and blow GGG\Jacobs out the water his offer will be less. It's no one's fault that GGG has idiots running his career costing him millions and losing big fights.
              You're still missing my point. Whether it's a smart business decision or not, GGG isn't the holding up the fight. DLH is.

              The fact is they made progress because of what they said to one another and whatever they verbally agreed upon before the GGG-Jacobs fight. Now they are back 3 steps because DLH is taking back something because of information (PPV buys) that he already.

              If you knew GGG-Jacobs buys were going to be low, why the hell would you agree to anything to begin with? If you're offering someone XXX terms and going to lower it afterward, don't blame anyone else but yourself for setting up the expectation and then trying to force the other side to accept a much more disappointing terms.

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              • Originally posted by Raonic View Post
                My point is that if DLH is going to use the 170K PPV buys and the split as the reason to hold up the fight, then he should've said that to begin with.

                Everyone knew GGG-Jacobs would never draw high PPV numbers. Why only come out now when you should've known GGG/Jacobs would do 200K or less. Either don't do a verbal agreement or honour it regardless of the results of the fight.
                If I make you an offer to buy your house and I give you what I think is fair market value and you don't accept because you trying to get more. Months and months go by and something happens the market value changes your house isn't as valuable as it was 8 months ago. That offer is off the table i'm going to give you a new offer that reflects your house value today. Hopefully this time you smarten up and take the offer. Simple business. Golden boy is holding it up? They not the on who turned down 15m. LMAO

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                • Originally posted by Raonic View Post
                  You're still missing my point. Whether it's a smart business decision or not, GGG isn't the holding up the fight. DLH is.

                  The fact is they made progress because of what they said to one another and whatever they verbally agreed upon before the GGG-Jacobs fight. Now they are back 3 steps because DLH is taking back something because of information (PPV buys) that he already.

                  If you knew GGG-Jacobs buys were going to be low, why the hell would you agree to anything to begin with? If you're offering someone XXX terms and going to lower it afterward, don't blame anyone else but yourself for setting up the expectation and then trying to force the other side to accept a much more disappointing terms.
                  Because ggg lost that fight,it makes canelo vs ggg less a draw now.its about leverage,gigi has none anymore,he doesn't look so unbeatable anymore so his own groupies won't even pay for the fight like always. G gave up his only card remaining. Hes the type of fighter whom loses all his fans as soon as he loses a fight,his gggroupies are bandwagoners who jump on whoevers nuts they see as unbeatable,when he gets his 1st official loss hell never draw even half what he does now.
                  Last edited by kushking; 04-01-2017, 06:57 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Raonic View Post
                    My point is that if DLH is going to use the 170K PPV buys and the split as the reason to hold up the fight, then he should've said that to begin with.

                    Everyone knew GGG-Jacobs would never draw high PPV numbers. Why only come out now when you should've known GGG/Jacobs would do 200K or less. Either don't do a verbal agreement or honour it regardless of the results of the fight.
                    EVERYONE knew that based on the PPV buys between the two would HURT or help GGG. They rolled the dice and LOST!!! They are F'N ******!!!! It's like when I'm at the table and SOME DRUNK splits queens??? A WINNING HAND!!!! For dumb ass reason.

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                    • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                      If I make you an offer to buy your house and I give you what I think is fair market value and you don't accept because you trying to get more. Months and months go by and something happens the market value changes your house isn't as valuable as it was 8 months ago. That offer is off the table i'm going to give you a new offer that reflects your house value today. Hopefully this time you smarten up and take the offer. Simple business. Golden boy is holding it up? They not the on who turned down 15m. LMAO
                      Your scenario is wrong. GGG's market value didn't change whereas your house scenario did. We all knew GGG's value in the PPV market was 150-200K buys.

                      A better scenario is if I offered you $400,000 for your house when I know it's worth $300,000 and a week later, I reduce it to $300,000 afterward. You're obviously going to be disappointed and may not want to do business with me if I'm going to go against my word and would probably try to sell your house to someone else.

                      Financially it makes much more sense for me to reduce my offer from $400,000 to $300,000 but business goes more than just numbers. Otherwise fights like the Manny-Floyd fight would've happened a long time ago.

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