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  • cameltoe
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    #41
    Originally posted by FLY TY
    You said Kell Brooks is experienced because he fought a decent fighter in shawn porter, then defended it against 3 bums, the same type of which he's fought his entire career. It also took him 10 years to win that belt, so I agree with everyone who says Brooks has more experience...he does...fighting bums.

    Fact is, the guy has been pro for 13 years, and has 2 championship level opponents on his resume.

    The other part of your argument deals with the fact he's went 12 rounds before. If you've been fighting over a decade, you should have a few 12 rounders in there, that has nothing to do with your level of opposition though. Golovkin doesn't have many 12 round fights, but that didn't help Brooks at all, did it?

    As much as everyone says Spence needs to justify the hype, Brooks does just as well. A victory over Shawn porter and 35 bums doesn't make kell special at all, imo.
    We weren't talking about special, or proven; we were talking about experienced and you've just summed up my argument for me, so well done. We can all agree, Kell is experienced and Spence is still green.

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      #42
      Originally posted by FLY TY
      You said Kell Brooks is experienced because he fought a decent fighter in shawn porter, then defended it against 3 bums, the same type of which he's fought his entire career. It also took him 10 years to win that belt, so I agree with everyone who says Brooks has more experience...he does...fighting bums.

      Fact is, the guy has been pro for 13 years, and has 2 championship level opponents on his resume.

      The other part of your argument deals with the fact he's went 12 rounds before. If you've been fighting over a decade, you should have a few 12 rounders in there, that has nothing to do with your level of opposition though. Golovkin doesn't have many 12 round fights, but that didn't help Brooks at all, did it?

      As much as everyone says Spence needs to justify the hype, Brooks does just as well. A victory over Shawn porter and 35 bums doesn't make kell special at all, imo.
      After I get back from the fight on the 27th of may, I'm coming in here to slaughter all you big talking Americans that hyped this kid up.

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        #43
        Originally posted by cameltoe
        We weren't talking about special, or proven; we were talking about experienced and you've just summed up my argument for me, so well done. We can all agree, Kell is experienced and Spence is still green.
        Ok, no harm no foul. We agree. Brook has a vast amount of experience fighting bums...should help him immensely on the 27th.

        Originally posted by JACK1190
        After I get back from the fight on the 27th of may, I'm coming in here to slaughter all you big talking Americans that hyped this kid up.
        I sure as hell hope you Brook fans don't disappear.

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        • cameltoe
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          #44
          Originally posted by FLY TY
          Ok, no harm no foul. We agree. Brook has a vast amount of experience fighting bums...should help him immensely on the 27th.
          See, here you go again.
          You keep saying this as if Spence has some amazing resume. His best wins are a geriatric Bundu and Chris farcking Algieri who'd already been beaten pillar to post by everyone going. You seem to refuse to acknowledge the facts so I can only assume you're trolling now.

          I don't know who wins this fight- I think Spence and everyone who's riding his d1ck (you included) are seriously underestimating Kell Brook, and for some reason you think this fight will be an easy nights work for Spence. I don't know why you think that, given how green Spence is, given its in Kell's back yard, and given Kell is a hell of a fighter and waaaay better than anyone Spence has fought before. I hope Kell shows up on the night and the weight doesn't affect him too much, but I seriously doubt- taking into account all the facts- that Errol's just going to rock up to Sheffield and steamroll him, like you think he will.

          You sound like every Conor McGregor fan I ever argued with. Just get Errol's face tattoo'd on your ass already.

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            #45
            You invariably find fighters back the guy they've been in the ring with to win

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              #46
              Originally posted by CowboyJ
              The Calzaghe-Lacy fight was Brooks most dominating performance.. The sprit of Brook was in Calzaghe when he beat Lacy and therefore is an outstanding win for Kell.. I knew at that time he was going to be very special and avoided by most in his division.. He lost to GGG on purpose so that he wouldn't be avoided any longer.. I hear he once KO'd Ortiz in sparring and uses the same nutritionist as the jolly green giant.. I see Spence losing and not even hitting Spence even once because of Kell's experience #ManDown #AndTheNew

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                #47
                Originally posted by LaterRoundz
                I've not seen a huge amount of Spence but just watched his two big wins on YouTube. From that small sample I don't see Spence as being a massively skilled fighter. Though he clearly has other attributes - he does look like an athlete who will go the full 12 and then come back for more. An old Bundu got ****** after being worn down by a better specimen, and Algieri is just awful. I'm not sure I can make any judgements about Spence's one punch power or any other features from what I've seen.

                I've seen way more of Kell Brook. He is a good technician and I can see him landing on Spence at will, particularly if Spence goes about his business the way he did in his two big fights to date. I'm not sure how much Spence will be able to get to Brook cleanly. Though that said Kell has found it hard keeping pressure off from time to time - Porter and (understandably) GGG got him going backwards and looking ragged.

                I think Kell makes Spence look silly early on, and will target Errol's body too. I'm sure Kell will face a few difficult moments (particularly later on) that he'll need to ride out, but Brook by UD for me.
                Not a single Brook opponent had any problem whatsoever landing cleanly on him.

                Spence a far better bodypuncher than Kell.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by cameltoe
                  See, here you go again.
                  You keep saying this as if Spence has some amazing resume. His best wins are a geriatric Bundu and Chris farcking Algieri who'd already been beaten pillar to post by everyone going. You seem to refuse to acknowledge the facts so I can only assume you're trolling now.

                  I don't know who wins this fight- I think Spence and everyone who's riding his d1ck (you included) are seriously underestimating Kell Brook, and for some reason you think this fight will be an easy nights work for Spence. I don't know why you think that, given how green Spence is, given its in Kell's back yard, and given Kell is a hell of a fighter and waaaay better than anyone Spence has fought before. I hope Kell shows up on the night and the weight doesn't affect him too much, but I seriously doubt- taking into account all the facts- that Errol's just going to rock up to Sheffield and steamroll him, like you think he will.

                  You sound like every Conor McGregor fan I ever argued with. Just get Errol's face tattoo'd on your ass already.
                  The resume argument honestly says more about kell than it does errol. I don't know why people keep using that argument. It seems like team Brooks would want to hype Spence up, therefore making themselves look better, win or lose.

                  Let's look at some facts, since you like them so much. Kell brook has been pro for 13 years, while spence has been pro for less than 5, and the difference in resume is shawn porter?

                  Like I said, that makes Brooks look bad, not Spence. Brooks has been a pro for 13 years, and it took him 10 years to fight his first championship caliber opponent. Spence is aiming to do it in less than half that time. I'll definitively give Brooks advantage as far as location of the fight, but I'm not seeing this wide gulf in experience that you are. I see shawn porter and 35 cans.

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                  • cameltoe
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by FLY TY
                    The resume argument honestly says more about kell than it does errol. I don't know why people keep using that argument. It seems like team Brooks would want to hype Spence up, therefore making themselves look better, win or lose.

                    Let's look at some facts, since you like them so much. Kell brook has been pro for 13 years, while spence has been pro for less than 5, and the difference in resume is shawn porter?

                    Like I said, that makes Brooks look bad, not Spence. Brooks has been a pro for 13 years, and it took him 10 years to fight his first championship caliber opponent. Spence is aiming to do it in less than half that time. I'll definitively give Brooks advantage as far as location of the fight, but I'm not seeing this wide gulf in experience that you are. I see shawn porter and 35 cans.
                    His name is Kell Brook. Not Brooks.

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                    • FLY TY
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by cameltoe
                      His name is Kell Brook. Not Brooks.
                      I know what his name is. It will also be "former" on 5/28.

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