Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

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  • bigdunny1
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    #51
    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
    Why? Because he's telling the truth? Y'all been doing the same thing for the last 2 years to Haymon.
    He can post whatever he wants and go on agenda rants just keep me out out it. lol

    I came here to talk about Ortiz not engage in his feud with golden boy.

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    • Deletrious
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      #52
      I like Ortiz but being a fan of his is exhausting, lol.

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      • Motorcity Cobra
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        #53
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx
        Hearn made huge promises about how far he was going to take Ortiz, but delivered garbage fights. We'll see what Haymon can do.
        Wilder vs Stiverne with Ortiz vs Breazele on the undercard.

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        • BigZ44
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          #54
          Obviously Haymon has a really deep stable of HWs, so there's a lot of potentially good matchups for Ortiz. But at his age I hope they don't let a few years go to waste fighting guys like Kauffman, Arreola and Martin. I'd like him to have 1 or 2 fights against somebody like Mansour or Washington and then let him get in there with Wilder.

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          • Scipio2009
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            #55
            Originally posted by bigdunny1
            I guess the honeymoon with Hearn didn't last long LMAO

            Ortiz problem is Dade promotions who bumped heads with golden boy until they had enough and agreed to be bought out for millions. Then the manager says they signed with Hearn and after a few fights Dade promotions comes out talking smack turning down fights and voicing displeasure. And now enter haymon. If Dade finally stops meddling and let's haymon do his job this could work out. But my gut says in short time Dade will start bumping heads with haymon too.
            Haymon's model puts the onus on the promoter doing the work of actually promoting the event; Warriors Boxing is basically Haymon's preferred promoter for the Florida territory (Luis Ortiz's likely best market to build a profile), and Warriors Boxing is unlikely to simply put the take with Dade Promotions for doing no work.

            If Dade Promotions wants to meddle, Haymon will let them meddle; leave Ortiz to his own devices, wait until Dade Promotions comes forward with a fight worth having, and put the onus on them to shape an event that merits any TV effort from Haymon.

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            • bigdunny1
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              #56
              Originally posted by Deletrious
              I like Ortiz but being a fan of his is exhausting, lol.
              Yup I feel bad Dade got their hooks into him early and it's been promoter drama ever since. Hopefully haymon can stop the trend but at his age he has no more time left to be bouncing around with promoters.

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              • Redd Foxx
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                #57
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                Wilder vs Stiverne with Ortiz vs Breazele on the undercard.
                That would be a good move. I don't think Wilder has really gotten over with the fans the way they were hoping so this would be a good opportunity to showcase Ortiz on the undercard as a boogeyman. Winners face each other and if Wilder can beat him, it adds to his cred. Maybe puts him over.

                If he loses, they build Ortiz into someone.

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                • Scipio2009
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
                  wonder if wilder will change his tune about not fighting ortiz due to past drug tests.

                  and btw, do we know his real age? somebody knows?
                  Wilder's not stepping in with anyone without USADA/VADA testing, regardless of who chooses to sign with Haymon.

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                  • Kilrain
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                    #59
                    Why the **** are the WBC ordering Wilder-Stiverne II? No one wants to see that trash and Stiverne hasn't even earned it.

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                    • Cheek busting
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                      #60
                      LOOOL at Wilder having a "mandatory defense" against Stiverne...

                      Hahah only Wilder would get so lucky - to get another seven-figure payday against a fat bum he already won every single round against with ease.

                      This dude is such a joke. I hope King Kong takes his head off.

                      Unfortunately, I don't think anybody believes Ortiz's real age is 38, as he's likely closer to 48 lol.

                      So by the time Wilder swerves, ducks, dips, dives, and dodges his way around real fights, Ortiz will be cracking 50, and will be ripe for the picking.

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