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  • The Big Dunn
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    #41
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    A fight cant be close when one guy gets hit with 60+ more punches, lands at a higher percentage, throws like 80 more punches and lands 3-1 in the jab department.
    Of course it can. Fights are scored by rounds, not punches thrown or landed.

    whether you outland me 85-15 or 12-6 in a round, the round most likely is scored 10-9 for you either way. When the compubox numbers are tallied you could have a huge edge in punches landed based on that dominant round, but its still only one round and its only a 10-9.

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    • soul_survivor
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Of course it can. Fights are scored by rounds, not punches thrown or landed.

      whether you outland me 85-15 or 12-6 in a round, the round most likely is scored 10-9 for you either way. When the compubox numbers are tallied you could have a huge edge in punches landed based on that dominant round, but its still only one round and its only a 10-9.
      Man, why do you always quote me, take a shellacking and then bugger off?

      You're telling me the guy who throws less punches, lands less punches and looks the more battered has won the more rounds? How is that possible in little dunn land?

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      • Real King Kong
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        #43
        Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
        Golovkin didn't step anything up. The WBA forced Jacobs vs Golovkin. Golovkin would be the face of boxing now had he taken the Lineal champs bluff at 155 in Q4 of 2015. Now he has settled at 160. K2 also rolled with fighting Wade who was on House arrest a week before the bout. Had K2 just pushed a tiny bit of publicity on that alone I would have given K2 mad respect and have attacked Top Rank for not acknowledging Murata to face GGG.

        And Ward did school Kovalev. Nowhere in Kova''s career will you have seen his head jacked back on a jab like that throughout the fight. A knockdown? Boone there before on both.
        there goes the last remnant of credibility you may have had.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #44
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          Man, why do you always quote me, take a shellacking and then bugger off?

          You're telling me the guy who throws less punches, lands less punches and looks the more battered has won the more rounds? How is that possible in little dunn land?
          We are talking about boxing in the real world, not Planet Oberon or wherever you are from.

          I understand the point you are getting at but its inexcusable for someone who has an account on this site and professes to be a boxing fan to not to know how to properly score a fight.

          It's like a football fan not knowing how many points a touchdown is or hoops fan not knowing what a travel is. Basic stuff.

          How someone looks after a fight is not factored into scoring. If someone throws less and lands less they can still win more of the rounds. Its mind boggling that you either don't know or can't comprehend this.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 03-28-2017, 01:01 PM.

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          • Mammoth
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            #45
            Let's be honest.... The only guy who should not be getting hate is Kovalev

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            • littlemac
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              #46
              Originally posted by Banko Villas
              Now, we all have our fun with trolling in here and while fun is definetely an important part of life, then I can't help but feel that we are actually being unfair to the fighters in here.

              People know how much I have been picking on Golovkin, talking about how Jacobs exposed him and stuff. Truth be told, that fight could as well have been a draw and it was no robbery. Both fought a great fight. I was annoyed at the white men's ego when they couldn't admit that Ward won a close fight over Kovalev (that also could just have been a draw). But that is not Golovkin's fault. People had asked him to step up for a long time. He did. And he should get praise for that, not punishment.

              As for Kovalev, then yeah, Ward did not school him. It was a close fight that could as well have been a draw. Respect for Kovalev and respect for Ward, both gave us a modern classic of a fight and they should be praised for it.

              All of this racist **** has gone too far. Let's just respect these warriors who, black or white, are more manly than any of us will ever be. Let's give credit where credit is due.

              IMO, Golovkin-Jacobs and Kovalev-Ward could both have been draws and any honest person could see that it was close fights which could have gone either way. Even if one is in denial about that, then at least respect all the great warriors involved in these bouts.
              Theres a lot of racism and nationalistic bigotry going on here in these forums. This is why I like to troll on these folks. They can always dish it out, but can never take it. This is why you have a lot of Kovalev and GGG fans up in arms crying bloody murder when before they were gloating. Now that Ward has defeated Kovalev and the possibility of gunning for GGG at 168, you can sense panic and desperation burring. All their hate ends up coming back biting them in a a%%.

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              • megas30
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                #47
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Man, why do you always quote me, take a shellacking and then bugger off?

                You're telling me the guy who throws less punches, lands less punches and looks the more battered has won the more rounds? How is that possible in little dunn land?
                Dunn is correct. Fights are scored on a round by round basis. Controlling for ring generalship, etc, A simple example: In a twelve rd fight, you can land 500 punches in 5 rds and 20 punches thoughout the next 7 (total=520), and I can land 30 throughout said 5 rds and 300 throughout the next 7 rounds (total=330), whom do you think will win the fight? Me. I will win 7 to 5 or 115-113.

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                • soul_survivor
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by megas30
                  Dunn is correct. Fights are scored on a round by round basis. Controlling for ring generalship, etc, A simple example: In a twelve rd fight, you can land 500 punches in 5 rds and 20 punches thoughout the next 7 (total=520), and I can land 30 throughout said 5 rds and 300 throughout the next 7 rounds (total=330), whom do you think will win the fight? Me. I will win 7 to 5 or 115-113.
                  Your hypothetical example is in no way relative to GGGs fight. I dont look much into compubox break downs but I'm sure youd find him out landing and out throwing Jacobs in the majority of the rounds.

                  And ring generalship is bs when GGG was pushing the action for at least 6 or 7 rounds and fighting how he wanted to fight.

                  You guys are stretching too much.

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                  • soul_survivor
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    We are talking about boxing in the real world, not Planet Oberon or wherever you are from.

                    I understand the point you are getting at but its inexcusable for someone who has an account on this site and professes to be a boxing fan to not to know how to properly score a fight.

                    It's like a football fan not knowing how many points a touchdown is or hoops fan not knowing what a travel is. Basic stuff.

                    How someone looks after a fight is not factored into scoring. If someone throws less and lands less they can still win more of the rounds. Its mind boggling that you either don't know or can't comprehend this.
                    Ok, explain to me how a guy who is being out landed in rounds wins those rounds.

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                    • Helm
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                      #50
                      Kovalev won

                      Golovkin won

                      end of the story

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