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  • Furn
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    #11
    Putting the term slick aside, theres definitely a lot of people who confuse surviving with schooling a fighter.

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    • mlac
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      #12
      Originally posted by STAX ON DECK
      sitchu ass down,,,, you dont no what "slick" actually is,,, its more than being defensive its a sertain 'swag' thatu cant teech.
      i no rite dat boi dnt no nuffin he defo shud sitche as dwn u jst cnt teech dis ideots nuffin smh lil g wanbee swag boi fam

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      • -PBP-
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        #13
        Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
        Duran ,Chavez Sr ,Lamotta all of them was pretty slick
        Good call on Chavez Sr. Need to watch more of Lamotta. "Slick" is confused with movement nowadays. There is nothing slick about moving. Being slick is standing right in front of your opponent, making him miss and hitting him with a sneaky shot that makes him say "damn. that was some slick **** you caught me with".

        Threadstarter has a point that a lot of people bias scoring rounds where the mover gets the benefit of the doubt even though he isn't landing anything. Too much emphasis on who is "controlling" the round versus who is landing the cleaner punches.

        That's another good thread topic which I may create about what "controlling the round" means to you.

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        • NaijaD
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          #14
          Originally posted by -PBP-
          Good call on Chavez Sr. Need to watch more of Lamotta. "Slick" is confused with movement nowadays. There is nothing slick about moving. Being slick is standing right in front of your opponent, making him miss and hitting him with a sneaky shot that makes him say "damn. that was some slick **** you caught me with".

          Threadstarter has a point that a lot of people bias scoring rounds where the mover gets the benefit of the doubt even though he isn't landing anything. Too much emphasis on who is "controlling" the round versus who is landing the cleaner punches.

          That's another good thread topic which I may create about what "controlling the round" means to you.
          Tevin Farmer is probably the slickest active fighter around today...... his movement in the pocket is phenomenal.

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            #15
            Originally posted by NaijaD
            Tevin Farmer is probably the slickest active fighter around today...... his movement in the pocket is phenomenal.
            Yeah I enjoy his fights. I also think Lomachenko, Rigondeaux, Canelo at times are slick fighters. My favorite is a young up and coming prospect named Tramaine Williams. He reminds me a lot of Pernell Whitaker. He recently signed with Roc Nation and was on the CBS Sports undercard this past weekend.

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            • j0zef
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              #16
              I think in general, the sport is suffering from the 'like Mike' phenomenom that the NBA was going through in the 90s and 00s. People were constantly looking for the next Jordan, from Len Bias to Vince Carter.

              If you look at recent boxing, Floyd Mayweather is one of the most famous boxers of recent generation, and he was known for 'slickness'. A lot of the fans and the writers try to compare guys to Floyd, and one of the most popular comparisons is to say that a guy is slick.

              However such comparisons to a severe disservice to Floyd. He was defensive fighter, but what made him great was that he could push the action and break you down all the while being 'slick', and that's a talent that not many of today's slicksters have.

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                #17
                Originally posted by j0zef
                I think in general, the sport is suffering from the 'like Mike' phenomenom that the NBA was going through in the 90s and 00s. People were constantly looking for the next Jordan, from Len Bias to Vince Carter.

                If you look at recent boxing, Floyd Mayweather is one of the most famous boxers of recent generation, and he was known for 'slickness'. A lot of the fans and the writers try to compare guys to Floyd, and one of the most popular comparisons is to say that a guy is slick.

                However such comparisons to a severe disservice to Floyd. He was defensive fighter, but what made him great was that he could push the action and break you down all the while being 'slick', and that's a talent that not many of today's slicksters have.
                yeah, i use mayweather as an example of someone who was defensive but was clearly landing clean, crisp counters. thats what being a defensive fighter is about, hitting and not getting hit. whereas many of the times now its fighters avoiding getting hit but not coming back with anything. its not so difficult to avoid shots when youre not throwing much back yourself.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by j0zef
                  I think in general, the sport is suffering from the 'like Mike' phenomenom that the NBA was going through in the 90s and 00s. People were constantly looking for the next Jordan, from Len Bias to Vince Carter.

                  If you look at recent boxing, Floyd Mayweather is one of the most famous boxers of recent generation, and he was known for 'slickness'. A lot of the fans and the writers try to compare guys to Floyd, and one of the most popular comparisons is to say that a guy is slick.

                  However such comparisons to a severe disservice to Floyd. He was defensive fighter, but what made him great was that he could push the action and break you down all the while being 'slick', and that's a talent that not many of today's slicksters have.
                  FMJr's "defensive slickness" was manifest in his later years... SRR was "slick", Ali was "slick"... Rigo, Loma are now...

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                    #19
                    I made a great thread on this a week ago. Got reported for racism and the thread got deleted.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Scholar
                      I made a great thread on this a week ago. Got reported for racism and the thread got deleted.
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                      ... the term "slick" originated in the fashion and lifestyle before WWII... Fred Astaire was the epitome of "slickness"!

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