Comments Thread For: Boxing's Pound For Pound Debate Is Tougher Than Ever

[Mexican_Puppet]

This is easy people.

Since the retire of Floyd THERE IS NOT A #1.

THERE IS A BUNCH OF VERY GOOD FIGHTERS, nothing special to say he is the number one.

Chocolatito is #1, he didnt lose his last fight. Four divison Champion.

Broner is 4 division champ too.

Leo Santa Cruz and Jorge Linares are 3 champ.

González never unified a title and he never was the #1.

[DeLorean]

let's try to be consistent. Ward/Kovalev was being promoted for over a year as the fight to decide the #1 p4p boxer. many critics and even other boxers agreed that whoever won that fight deserved #1 spot.

afterwards it changed to since the fight was so debatable we can't give Ward the #1 spot yet.

GGG/Jacobs was just as debatable so therefore we can't give GGG the #1 spot either. but if we're forgetting all that then the only way to decide is comparing quality of opponents. Kovalev > Jacobs. therefore Ward's win was more impressive than GGG's win.

but if we stay consistent with the argument that we can't have a p4p king coming off a close fight than neither GGG nor Ward deserve the top spot. likewise Chocolatito can't be #1 either and he actually has to drop further because his opponent was unknown with a padded record.

that leaves guys like Lomachenko, Crawford and Mikey.

Rigo shouldn't even be discussed due to inactivity.

Thurman also needs more love in these discussions since he has wins over two prime welterweights. Pacquiao should also be in the mix since imo he's still top dog at 147 until someone beats him and his resume is head n shoulders above anybody.

Canelo never gets props either with wins over Lara, Trout, Cotto and being the new "face" of boxing.

so if we're eliminating guys coming off close fights we must drop Ward, GGG and Chocolatito from #1.

between Crawford, Mikey, Loma, Pacquiao, Thurman and Canelo who's more worthy of #1 spot? that's also debatable.

in a recent interview Virgil Hunter said it best "pound for pound seems to be more about HOW you look winning as opposed to WHO you beat."

[bluemax]

Ward shouldn't even be in the top ten! He won a fight he actually lost by most accounts and is now hiding from a rematch. He should be lumped in with the carny groups of fighters like Alverez .

[BrometheusBob.]

Good read.

[Verus]

Judging on talent alone:

Crawford, Lomachenko, Chocolatito, Garcia, or

Lomachenko, Crawford, Chocolatito, Garcia.

[Shadoww702]

You have to give it to Ward. Head to head winners should still count no matter what your personal feelings are. I just got done watching NCAA basketball and I'm sure plenty of teams felt they were robbed but I don't see them moving on...

Ward won the fight between two P4P Top 5 guys. Most had Kovalov top 3 AND he moved UP for the fight.

Jacobs was a solid win but he's not even P4P top 20. Maybe top 30??? He's never even won a real belt.

Loma has a LOSS to 13 loss Salido who was manhandled by Garcia. So he obviously wasn't the better fighter that night. He has been beat OVER a DOZEN times...

[Shadoww702]

Ward shouldn't even be in the top ten! He won a fight he actually lost by most accounts and is now hiding from a rematch. He should be lumped in with the carny groups of fighters like Alverez .

???? The rematch has a date June 17th. Has a place Mandalay Bay in Vegas, Nv. And Roc Nation just sent over the new terms which Kovalov signed....Your a lil slow and late to the party.

[Mike D]

Loma has a LOSS to 13 loss Salido who was manhandled by Garcia. So he obviously wasn't the better fighter that night. He has been beat OVER a DOZEN times...

I hate to sound like a Loma apologist, but...think about it. That was Lomachenko's SECOND career professional fight. And he was going against a 55 professional fight veteran who was a former two division world champion. Salido had 43 professional wins to Lomachenko's ONE at the time of the fight. That is freaking unheard of. And let's not act like that wasn't a razor thin win for Salido. It was a split decision.

[ceylon mooney]

gonzales won by a wide margin despite a knockdown and bein a bloody headbutt mess. hes still #1.

golovkin didnt absolutely dominate the #2 guy, and we all think he should have. a p4p guy fighting in his own weight class
should be dominating the #2 guy unless the #2 guy is also a p4p contender, which mo one would
say jacobs is.

so if someone lower looked better i can see them goin up a notch, but... i think he underperformed, and jacobs did a great job. i can def see his p4p status lowering if someone elses status is to be elevated.

[Shadoww702]

I hate to sound like a Loma apologist, but...think about it. That was Lomachenko's SECOND career professional fight. And he was going against a 55 professional fight veteran who was a former two division world champion. Salido had 43 professional wins to Lomachenko's ONE at the time of the fight. That is freaking unheard of. And let's not act like that wasn't a razor thin win for Salido. It was a split decision.

Thats all fine and dandy if you don't have him P4P #1.