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  • #41
    Originally posted by DeLorean View Post
    anybody blaming Floyd for lack of action doesn't know boxing. if you're going to purchase a product you must know what it is you're getting into. everybody knew Floyd is no KO artist. the guy who was supposed to bring the "action" was Pacquiao, he chose to play chess instead and got washed.
    GTFO, man. Mayweather is the only fighter in history whose opponents get blamed when he stinks the joint out. They're blamed for not making his ass less boring.

    Sure, Pac was disappointing and should have sold out but any who understands boxing that by then, Mayweather had developed an incredibly safety-first style that played a numbers game with the judging. Floyd is absolutely to blame for making that fight hideous. This was the fight of the century, the one where Mayweather's fans predicted he would lay down a beating on Pac to end all the nonsense he suffered. And what happened? He fought mostly scared against a small, injured fighter

    Going back to the original question, the low PPV numbers are:

    - Mayweather-Pac

    - Streaming. Everyone is getting sophisticated at this now.

    - Promoters and fighters not selling themselves better to the public. Look how British boxing is thriving. Joshua is the most mind-numblingly boring boxing personality in the world but all his fights are events.
    Last edited by Porter's Dad; 03-25-2017, 09:19 PM.

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    • #42
      Pac-Floyd killed this sport. Not even a MMA/Boxing freakshow can save it.

      It's still doing well in the UK. Stateside the sport is DEAD

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      • #43
        Originally posted by sicko View Post
        Great Post! Another thing too and the biggest mistake boxing is making currently is this trying to Faze Out American Boxers! That is STUPID and I think that is what is just KILLING HBO ratings and PPV Buys! Of course boxing in America will struggle without AMERICANS! That is one thing UFC understands that boxing doesn't. When you have American STARS you can create McGregor and others from different Countries. But with boxing they're trying to REPLACE American Boxing with Foreigners and that will NEVER EVER WORK in America.
        Oh yea for sure. HBO has gone fairly heavily into foreign guys with GGG, Kovalev & Gonzalez being among their most pushed fighters these days. None of which I could ever see being an A side 1M+ PPV buy caliber stars. And I'd even argue the Latino thing might be thinking overly optimistic since when you look at the top 5 boxing stars since PPV has been around its 3 American black guys, 1 Latino & a charismatic Filipino lol.

        Another random PPV fact, there have only been 2 non-Latino/non-American PPV fighters who've had 2M+ PPV buys in their entire boxing career. Obviously Manny is one. Lennox Lewis is the other although 70% of his PPV buy numbers are from 3 fights with Holyfield & Tyson. So for sure its harder to be a foreign born US PPV star.

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        • #44
          Yes. Blame May/Pac. Quite original.

          The numbers are low because there aren't any superstars. End of.

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          • #45
            non boxing fans never heard of ggg or jacobs.

            its not like tito vs dlh back in the day and you shouldnt expect similar numbers.

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            • #46
              Say what you want about Hearn and Sky but they sell fights

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              • #47
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Did you just start watching boxing? Do you know how many horrible big PPV fights supposedly killed the sport? Tyson-Holyfield 2, De La Hoya-Trinidad, etc.

                The fights that are on PPV these days involve boxers who don't belong on there or fights that don't belong on there. It's really that simple.
                Don't let your emotionalism cloud your thinking. The economic climate was different back then at the time of the fights you mentioned. The PPVs also didn't cost $100.

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                • #48
                  May-PAC killed ppv. And good riddance I say.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by The Akbar One View Post
                    Don't let your emotionalism cloud your thinking. The economic climate was different back then at the time of the fights you mentioned. The PPVs also didn't cost $100.
                    I find it interesting that you speak of "emotionalism" (huh?) when your post has nothing to do with what I was referring to and is pretty basic.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      The fights that are on PPV these days involve boxers who don't belong on there or fights that don't belong on there. It's really that simple.
                      There isn't reallllly a type of fight that is or isn't PPV worthy despite that being many fight fans spin. The reality is that any fight where the revenue from buys surpasses​ the expenses of the fight is a PPV fight that makes sense to the guy putting it on.

                      Originally posted by The Akbar One View Post
                      The PPVs also didn't cost $100.
                      Not any except for one costed $100 that I'm aware of, but it is a relevant topic that revenue is the vastly superior figure with ppv sh_t, but it's just so hidden a number for most fights that people tend to stick to buys which are the more openly discussed numbers.

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